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post #346 of 727
8/1/12 at 6:19am
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Originally Posted by TM79 View Post

I bought this jacket for around $150: http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=678&Product_Id=1416311&Parent_Id=217&default_color=CHARCOAL&sort_by=&sectioncolor=&sectionsize=
All this talk of grey odd jackets has me confused, angry, and alone. But seriously, can this be paired with something and look good? I've been seeing every gray odd pairing get shot down in this thread.

I think it's been made clear several times now that tweed is fine. They're talking about grey "blazers" or grey in any cloth that could be taken for city suiting.
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post #347 of 727
8/1/12 at 6:33am
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Originally Posted by ColdEyedPugilist View Post

No brown shoes with ties in strong colours like dark red, midnight or purple.
No black shoes if your ensemble has a predominance of rustic colours like brown, orange and green.

you're welcome. many thanks for taking your time and help me out.
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post #348 of 727
8/1/12 at 6:48am
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post

That is the opposite of my ideal. I don't want to be the guy who always has a gimmick.

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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

I want to be the guy who never has a gimmick.
Yeah but it's not like you guys are wearing nothing but gray-white-blue-black all the time. I guess we would have to define "gimmick" but your clothes can be eye catching.
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post #349 of 727
8/1/12 at 7:12am
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unbelragazzo@331: both are bad for different reasons. I agree, the top one is better but it’s also a rather silly caricature of New England summer trad. And it’s a good illustration of a point made earlier in this thread that I am surprised to find is controversial. If you are going to wear a really bold piece then everything else needs to be quiet. So, OK, green pants. Blazer is good. Pink shirt, well, it’s not awful but blue would be better. Exploding square, silly. Really, that demands a white TV fold. Tie is OK I guess, could be quieter. If topsiders, they should be brown.

Hendrix @332: they both suck.

Re: the duke. Have never liked that outfit. I see what you are saying about blended colors and you’re right, it does save him from a total meltdown. But again, that suit would look a lot better with a plain shirt and a plain white square. Frankly, the deeper problem is that the windownpane is just too loud, it needs to be fuzzed out and toned down.

Tutee, your rules 4, 5 and 6 are shocking to me.

Tm79, there is nothing incorrect about that coat. It’s just banal. If you want a gray herringbone, look instead for a really hairy Harris tweed with a much larger pattern.
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post #350 of 727
8/1/12 at 7:12am
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Yeah but it's not like you guys are wearing nothing but gray-white-blue-black all the time. I guess we would have to define "gimmick" but your clothes can be eye catching.

imo, gimmick =/= eye catching

to me, eye catching can be anything that manages to pleasantly catch the eye, a nice contrast, a nice texture, a nice pattern.... but the thing itself is in no way outlandish. gimmick to me always implies that the item doesn't really carry any value outside of being there to attract attention.
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post #351 of 727
8/1/12 at 7:28am
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

the top one is better but it’s also a rather silly caricature of New England summer trad.

If you're going to wear those green pants, isn't that kind of a forgone conclusion? And if so, why not just embrace it?

Anyway, I don't want to get too entrenched in my defense of that photo in particular. I think part of the disagreement stems from your version of "bold" being not quite so outlandish as green pants, so when worn with quieter items the contrast isn't so great. But I still maintain that the general strategy of wearing bold items with quiet items results in "highlighting" the bold item, accentuating its boldness and its separation from the rest of the composition, as opposed to "blending" it in with the other elements, which is a more difficult but more rewarding task.
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post #352 of 727
8/1/12 at 7:30am
FWIW...I hope neither Will nor anyone else will mind me linking these here:

http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/2011/06/harmony.html

http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/2011/06/cacophany.html

http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/2012/01/art-of-composition.html
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post #353 of 727
8/1/12 at 7:45am
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Will is great but that bowtie is spectacularly bad.

If I could take those same green pants and dress the guy myself for the rest, and put side by side with that pic, it would be clear that one loud trumps many louds.

I was trying to find a great Tom Wolfe quote that I know I have posted before. Anyway, it was about how these Boston Brahmins dressed for parties at the Vineyard, really loud pants, but everything above the waist super sedate. "The pants were their note of Haitian abandon ... at the same time the jackets and ites showed they had not forgottten where the power came from."
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post #354 of 727
8/1/12 at 7:50am
to say that the Flusser red pants/plaid jacket/suede loafers outfit is balanced and not one element stands out is almost as bad as wearing that outfit.
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post #355 of 727
8/1/12 at 7:58am
I think Alan lost his mind in 1988
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post #356 of 727
8/1/12 at 7:59am
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No, it was later than that. I first met him in 1992 and he was dressing very well. He started to go awry in the 2000s.
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post #357 of 727
8/1/12 at 8:07am
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post


Is that a wool tie?

Cashmere/silk (55/45, if I remember correctly), and quite substantial.
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post #358 of 727
8/1/12 at 8:11am
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Will is great but that bowtie is spectacularly bad.
If I could take those same green pants and dress the guy myself for the rest, and put side by side with that pic, it would be clear that one loud trumps many louds.
I was trying to find a great Tom Wolfe quote that I know I have posted before. Anyway, it was about how these Boston Brahmins dressed for parties at the Vineyard, really loud pants, but everything above the waist super sedate. "The pants were their note of Haitian abandon ... at the same time the jackets and ites showed they had not forgottten where the power came from."

By the way, did you ever publish that piece on Wolfe and California? I remember you saying you were exchanging emails with him?
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post #359 of 727
8/1/12 at 8:33am
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not yet
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post #360 of 727
8/1/12 at 8:36am
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

If you want a gray herringbone, look instead for a really hairy Harris tweed with a much larger pattern.

Not Harris (Shetland, I think), but pretty hairy:

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Harris and Neanderthal:

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