Originally Posted by F. Corbera
Let me describe something, and you let me know if it makes sense. I'll only talk about MC, since the rest of the site doesn't really interest me enough to spend much time in those sections.
The site has 100K "members" signed up, and I assume gets a lot of lurking drop-ins from Google searches and so on.
Of those 100K members, what proportion of posts are made by the, oh, 200 most active members (even not accounting for you
Of new threads started, how many are started by members who make less than, oh, 100 total posts? In other words, people who are oriented to their own needs and demands rather than bringing something to the table themselves? Most threads?
agreed. the majority of new threads are made for simple self serving needs, that really could be a question and quick couple replies in one of the many useful running threads that are consistently on the first page.
personally, for me its come to the point that i dont even really look at the new threads that are posted, it just too focking painful. i stick with the ones i am active in, WAYWRN, rock your socks, G&G and a few others. i only saw edmorels thread about pattern matching because it was linked in a different thread i visit.
i guess that pretty much says it. but then again, admittedly, i did start a few like that when i first joined. so maybe it is just inevitable. this really leads back to the age old question of, should there be a post requirement to start a new thread?
So, then out of the 200 or so most active members, how many start interesting new threads themselves? You know, on Mens Clothing topics?
My point is that while there is a lot of self-congratulation about how "high" volume the site is, when it comes to Mens Clothing, the whole superstructure comes down to just a few guys who can (1) start good threads, (2) make intelligent, knowledge responses about Mens Clothing, and (3) maintain some continuing energy in participating.
agreed. that is why i dont start threads anymore. 1. i cant start good ones. 2. i am neither intelligent nor knowledgable. i have plenty of energy though.
question is though, why dont these few people who have what takes, start more threads, is it as Thomas said, they have just run out of things to say? i highly doubt it. presumably these people are very active in new endeavors in their lives regarding mens clothing, and new things always lead to new conversations.
i am though considering a new thread, maybe ill PM you for your opinion of its value.
This is a small group...far smaller than that 200 number that I'm using above. So, when such a guy gets basically hounded out like Montesquieu by a bunch of shitheads, with nary a presence by a forum mod, it is very disappointing that when this kind of poster chooses to return, his thread and he become the meal du mod du jour.
That's what I'm saying. It became clear to me that the site had somehow become geared to the non-contributor, or contributors following a sanctioned script, and retailers, a while ago. This whole with Monty's thread just reminds me of something I had conveniently forgotten for a few months.
Fok has posted over and over again that he sees no significant change in SF over time: just more people.
Is that what you guys see? Does anyone really agree with him?
So, there's a big disconnect between having a great MC forum and how the site is run today. That's my opinion.
this is the part where i am unsure. was the monty thread mis handled? i never saw it, and its not really my place to say. is it a shame though that he got all kinds of shit from useless posters though. i can say that much.
lastly, while it might be true "that the site had somehow become geared to the non-contributor, or contributors following a sanctioned script, and retailers, a while ago..." i am not sure that that was a conscious decision of the moderators of the forum, or just something that happened with the great influx of "members who make less than, oh, 100 total posts? In other words, people who are oriented to their own needs and demands rather than bringing something to the table themselves."
either way, there should be some pro active attempt to redirect where things are headed. just my opinions. let me know if any of that rings true to you.