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post #46 of 92
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Originally Posted by why View Post

Good one. I thought he was British.
Also, Hendrix as a genius is just rotflmao.gif

If you're not familiar with Woodward, you should look him up. Word is, he could have had two Nobel prizes if he weren't so arrogant. As the story goes, the community waited until he was dead to award what would have been Woodward's second Nobel prize to his much younger collaborator (awards are not given posthumously, so Woodward couldn't share the prize).
post #47 of 92
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Originally Posted by thinman View Post

If you're not familiar with Woodward, you should look him up. Word is, he could have had two Nobel prizes if he weren't so arrogant. As the story goes, the community waited until he was dead to award what would have been Woodward's second Nobel prize to his much younger collaborator (awards are not given posthumously, so Woodward couldn't share the prize).

Yeah, I looked at his Wiki page after you posted. Unfortunately I don't know enough about organic chemistry to have remembered a name as common as his. But wow -- he synthesized some of the most fundamental biological compounds!
post #48 of 92
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Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

Yes, but I beat you to Edison. Unless you're referring to the younger nephew Jasper "Jimmy" Edison, who invented sleeping in the lab, urinating into empty beer bottles, and patent trolling.

So you did.

Jimmy Edison also came up with the first prototype of the Coors punch top smooth pour beer can.
post #49 of 92
you guys forgot Bobby Fischer
post #50 of 92
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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post

Bill Gates anyone?

i mentioned that before, and no said a thing. i guess he isnt highly considered for his brain. i have heard mark zuckerberg is also extremely intelligent.
post #51 of 92
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

you guys forgot Bobby Fischer

True enough! As a former chess player, I am so ashamed. shog[1].gif
post #52 of 92
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Originally Posted by why View Post

Hendrix was arguably not even a musician, let alone a musical genius (and I'll make that argument).

Please do (make that argument.)
post #53 of 92
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post

So you did.
Jimmy Edison also came up with the first prototype of the Coors punch top smooth pour beer can.

laugh.gif Weren't all cans punch-top back in the day? Actually, the more I think about it, back in the old churchkey days, every can was smooth-pouring, because you poked two holes in the top. Thanks Jimmy!
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you guys forgot Bobby Fischer

True. So true.
post #54 of 92
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Originally Posted by why View Post

I realize the problem here is that we can't agree on terms, but most people have at least kept certain bounds on their definitions. Hendrix was arguably not even a musician, let alone a musical genius (and I'll make that argument).

Oh, please do. I'm just dying to hear that bunch of bullshit.
post #55 of 92
Only person that jumps out at me that I don't think was mentioned yet is P.T. Barnum. But maybe he was just a really good con man.
post #56 of 92
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Originally Posted by Baron View Post

Please do (make that argument.)

By your own admission he knew little about music and 'reinvented' an instrument (in other words, made it produce different sounds than was considered harmonious at the time). But this definition implies some natural constancy as if musical tastes didn't change, or people weren't simply entertained differently than before. This isn't the case. A physicist that discovers something new needs to do so within the laws of nature -- that is, a constancy -- and can't simply rely on a fluctuation in physical laws.

The arguments for Hendrix's prodigy are tired and juvenile.
Edited by why - 7/20/12 at 8:52am
post #57 of 92
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By your own admission he knew little about music and 'reinvented' an instrument (in other words, made it produce different sounds than was considered harmonious at the time).

This is an insult to your own, moderate intelligence. Try back again when you can come up with something substantial.
post #58 of 92
I have my popcorn at the ready.
post #59 of 92
I may be influenced by the field I work in, but along the lines of "genius most people have probably never heard of" I'm going to go with Claude Shannon
post #60 of 92
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Originally Posted by why View Post

By your own admission he knew little about music and 'reinvented' an instrument (in other words, made it produce different sounds than was considered harmonious at the time). But this definition implies some natural constancy as if musical tastes didn't change, or people weren't simply entertained differently than before. This isn't the case. A physicist that discovers something new needs to do so within the laws of nature -- that is, a constancy -- and can't simply rely on a fluctuation in physical laws.
The arguments for Hendrix's prodigy are tired and juvenile.

WTF does this even mean? You have a way of being incredibly convoluted. It's always better to use the plainest possible language to express yourself. The other possibility is that you misuse words and syntax to hide the fact that you're not really saying anything. As best I can tell, you're saying that Hendrix wasn't a musician because he wasn't trained, and therefore was merely making sounds that were atonal and unrelated to any musical tradition? That's plainly not true, though it wouldn't serve as a convincing argument if it were. He was playing the blues, and then did a lot more than that, but whatever. His peers seemed to think he had some sort of gifts that placed in category beyond their own abilities, both as a virtuoso and creative force. As I said in my first post in this thread, the word is fraught, and I don't really care who get's labeled "genius." Just don't make asinine comments and then pretend to support them with juvenile dorm room gobbledygook.
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