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post #136 of 172

this thread is unreal biggrin.gif

post #137 of 172
Say what you will, but you gotta do respect whitepigeon's dedication and good humor in advancing the donning of capes. He's a bird of a different feather, all right, but he is persistent.
post #138 of 172
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Originally Posted by Whitepigeon View Post

Oh dear, oh dear what a lot of terrible misunderstandings we have to confront with.
Did I make myself clear ?
Enjoy your sunday.

Unfortunately you are not clear. I think the lack of English fluency deters you from writing valid arguments. Nevertheless, you should know to be more succinct- I think that is an important aspect of any language.
Furthermore, let me make a comparison to clear things up. Also, your effort deserves a better response.

~Capes work in movies because of the scenario in which they are used:
  • The portrayal of a time period when they were the norm.
  • The portrayal of a kick-ass movie character who has done some great deed, and the audience knows it.
  • Think about those two things. Neither applies to you (I'm not saying that you're not great. It's just that we don't know it).
  • I'd like to add that one failing to separate fiction and reality is stupid.
  • Extrapolate to the fact that the capes "work" in your photos due to a specific scenario:
    Riding a horse in uniform carrying a flag, the magnificent occasion of a wedding, a very bold fashion statement, a musical performance, etc.

~The few comments you've received in person does not portray the way you look accurately.
  • Honestly, I think those people were just being courteous to you. They don't care if you look ridiculous.
  • We don't care if you look ridiculous either, but we're (the forum) honest about it because we don't know you in person, and we can judge your attire more objectively.
  • This forum is a gathering of a small sub-group of society with probably more sense about fashion and clothing. I think you should pay more attention to what these guys say.

~Wearing what you like and being proud. Confidence and individuality are important. You should be proud of wearing what you like, regardless of people ridiculing you.
  • However, it's also important that a man knows how to walk that fine line. If you plan on being a part of society, it would be certainly a poor choice to completely neglect the majority opinion.
  • It is a fact that capes are very rare today. This makes them eccentric and extreme. A certain amount of eccentricity certainly can lead to charisma and elegance.
  • A cape is a huge cloth covers the majority of your body. When someone looks at you, they will see you as the cape man. Elegance is understated by definition. Since noone else wears a cape, it becomes overstated. It is no longer elegant in most situations.

Edited by yywwyy - 7/22/12 at 4:00pm
post #139 of 172

^^^ So you're saying if more people wore capes then everything would be fine?  If so, then someone has to encourage the wearing of capes.  Why not Whitepigeon?

post #140 of 172
^ Capes used to be fine because they were the norm. They went away for a reason- likely impracticality in today's world. If one was to introduce the use of capes in a more practical manner for typical menswear, and made them look good, then they would be fine. If that was successfully done, many people would wear them and the innovator would become rich and respected, in a simplistic scenario. Whitepigeon does not do that--- he just keeps referring to the past or trying to debunk our reasoning for not liking capes.
post #141 of 172

We should start with designer ponchos  .  .  .

post #142 of 172
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Originally Posted by Whitepigeon View Post

 

Good heavens : do you really think  there is something existing as cape - fetishists ?  

May be you are right but personally I did never heard of it.

Do call me old fashioned but now I have learned something new...............!

Are they dangerous you think ........?

 

But thanks anyway for your spectrum.

 

My agenda ?

 

My dear fellow read the opening contribution of this thread and you will know it again.

It was all about : what does men prevent from buying or wearing capes today ,

since some designers are trying to bring back this re - styled and renewed fashion - item in men's garderobe.

 

Do we remember it now again ?

 

Do forgive me I am sometimes a little bit joking :

So far I have come to the conclusion this thread has shown there is really existing a category of men

who seem to be very resistant and reluctant to this change in style and fashion. 

Never mind. They probably migth be resistant to more, if not any change of some importance in daily life.

 

Should we be worried about this ?

I do not think so.

Psychologically it is most of the time all based on fear I guess..........

But let us not make this the subject of this thread.

 

There are also people who like to believe the sun is still turning around the earth

and that this is a fixed truth.

Let them.  You won't convert them.

And if you should convert them : you will probably not make them happier.

 

So let them.

 

I am not directing myself to this category of men ( in your spectrum category number 1 )

because we will not ever come closer to each other.

That is, as far as I am concerned,  not necessary too by the way.

 Please do forgive for saying so but personally I do not wish to belong to that category,

but let's stay good friends with them and why should not I wish them all the luck in the world.....?

 

I am talking about - and directing myself to -  category 4 and 5 in your spectrum.

 

Those fellow men among us who are really open for some change and new experiments in general ( and in particular also in fashion )

and have to confront some difficulties and obstacles when desiring to integrate a cape in their wardrobe.

 

There is thread all about.

 

So far this thread has proven not to be unuseful in my vision

even if it seems to irritate some people. (  My advice do not read this "nonsense" : go to another thread) 

 

Let us restrict to your category number 4 and 5.

 

This thread has brougth to ligth a lot of things which truly migth be seen as an obstacle for men open to buy or wear a cape for today's use.

We talked about the lack of usefulnes of capes ( indeed : do not choose for a cape for practical usefulnes in the first place, with may be the one possible exception of the raincape)

We talked about the lack of availability - at least till now - of capes for men in the shops;

We talked about that it is necessary to learn to move in a cape to prevent you migth get struck in to something;

We talked about the wrong and ( partly very childisch ) associations and reactions some people have when seeing a man wearing a cape;

We talked about the lack of examples on the internet and/or the social media of how to combine a cape with other clothes as to obtain a good combination

We talked about  do 's and don't 's when trying out fashion - experiments in general and also with wearing a cape as being a man

And ofcourse we had some good laughs about some reactions.

 

The last thing is necessary too because it sometimes almost seems there is no other subject that divide our male population more as the opinions about men wearing capes.

Ofcourse there are also other things in the world which are important.

 

Now, may I do a proposal dear fellow men of this forum ?

 

I suggest to all contributors of this thread they read very well your useful spectrum.

Read it and estimate which category you belong to.

If it happens to be category 1,2 or 3 please do not waiste time and energy any longer.

Go to another thread. At least for the moment this migth not be your subject.

But do come back and be our guest the moment you have something serious to tell.

Then you have our attention and we are all eye and ear. Be sure of that.

 

And also if you happen to belong to category 6 ( Good heavens! Do they really exist.......?)

Enjoy whatever fetish you like, but we are not talking in this thread about how you can get sexually aroused.

 

If we can manage to get rid of the cape - hating men who are only trying to make the subject ridiculous

we reached a lot today.

Let's continue with men, modern and open to the world and in for changes in general but also in fashion,

who like to talk seriously about buying and wearing the new re-styled mancape for today's use.

 

After all there is this thread meant for.

Wishing you all a pleasant sunday.

 

Define "dangerous".

Not too clear on what you're questioning as dangerous but as you are a champion of capes, I'll assume that you're referring to capes.

Well, I say, potentially... yes, capes are "dangerous".

Will wearing a cape kill me?  No, probably not (ignoring the amusing situations depicted in The Incredibles)

But "danger" is not limited to physical harm.

Wearing a cape, you could face, assuming that most people in modern society are cape-aversive, public ridicule, to the extent that wearing one in a professional setting will most likely have a very detrimental effect.

Of course, this is all subjective and completely my own opinion.  You may not find "job loss" to be a dangerous thing.

post #143 of 172

men don't wear capes because most men have no B**LS and are reluctant to wear anything out of the "norm"... capes, kilts, pink shirts, scarves, neckwear other than boring ties..  the list is practically endless..

 

 A cape doesn't appeal to me as something I'd like to wear because it's the opposite of what I like.. close fitting tailoring.. however, I do like them as something to see others wear.. they're very cool when done right..

post #144 of 172
JEEBUS THEY'RE MULTIPLYING
post #145 of 172
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Originally Posted by afreegreek View Post

men don't wear capes because most men have no B**LS and are reluctant to wear anything out of the "norm"... capes, kilts, pink shirts, scarves, neckwear other than boring ties..  the list is practically endless...

I knew I was missing something, the kilt.
post #146 of 172
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by afreegreek View Post

men don't wear capes because most men have no B**LS and are reluctant to wear anything out of the "norm"... capes, kilts, pink shirts, scarves, neckwear other than boring ties..  the list is practically endless..

 

 A cape doesn't appeal to me as something I'd like to wear because it's the opposite of what I like.. close fitting tailoring.. however, I do like them as something to see others wear.. they're very cool when done right.

This weird old eccentric fool has said something like this before.

It 's good they here it from another man because I am already written away out of reality.

post #147 of 172
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Hayward View Post

JEEBUS THEY'RE MULTIPLYING

Who ? The Monkeys .......?

post #148 of 172
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gooter View Post

this thread is unreal biggrin.gif

Unreal ? No. No I do not think so.

Spooky. It start to be spooky.

 

Do call me old - fashioned  but I 've always been against that people see too much movies and read too much SF

The result : some of our dear fellow - men ( indeed women seem to live more in reality ) have lost their sense of reality.

When wearing a cape as a man  some of our dear fellow - men do not see any longer

I am combining that with ordinary trousers, italian shoes and an ordinary hat.

They only appear to see boots, tigths, masks, utility belts etc.

Now who is here out of place and who should make an appointment for psychiatrical help ?

post #149 of 172
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

^^^ So you're saying if more people wore capes then everything would be fine?  If so, then someone has to encourage the wearing of capes.  Why not Whitepigeon?

Now that  sounds reasonable........!

post #150 of 172
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Breedlove View Post

 

Define "dangerous".

Not too clear on what you're questioning as dangerous but as you are a champion of capes, I'll assume that you're referring to capes.

Well, I say, potentially... yes, capes are "dangerous".

Will wearing a cape kill me?  No, probably not (ignoring the amusing situations depicted in The Incredibles)

But "danger" is not limited to physical harm.

Wearing a cape, you could face, assuming that most people in modern society are cape-aversive, public ridicule, to the extent that wearing one in a professional setting will most likely have a very detrimental effect.

Of course, this is all subjective and completely my own opinion.  You may not find "job loss" to be a dangerous thing.

With "dangerous" I meant : do they carry knives under their capes or will they murder you as an innocent citizen who happens to pass along............?

 

But no, let's be serious for a moment.

You seem to be a man with eye for reality.

I wrote already elsewhere in this thread that it is wise

not to do any fashionexperiments in your boss time.

It is probably not where he is paying you for.

 

Keep that for your free time.

And in case of any doubt : do not choose for a purple cape when going to the opera ( if you insist, do combine it with only black and white )

Instead : choose for the classical combination of a black tuxedo and a black cape. That will do fine.

Let some of our dear fellow - men first get over the shock that there are still men who think capes are nice to wear.

Do consider they have probably also a wife and a family in case they might get a heart - attack.

Some time they will get over it.

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