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post #1 of 434
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So I've noticed that a lot of the newer posters like wearing multiple patterns and since I've been here there are always questions on how to wear 2-3 patterns, questions on scale etc. I just put together a few pics of what I think works when combining multiple patterns. Keep in mind that in my manner of dressing, I rarely if ever wear more than two patterns, and really only prefer to wear one, and I am one of those solid navy tie with everything guys. Mostly, these are outfits that I would not wear now, but again, that I think serve a purpose as a base for those that have trouble combining multiple patterns. These are just my opinions, not rules and I hope this threak serves a purpose, maybe even people can post outfits here that they are having trouble with from a pattern perspective to get feedback. I purposely did not use any solid blue shirts or solid ties because I don't think anyone needs help pairing those items.

First up is a suit. The fabric is a muted brown plaid, so it allows for a bolder shirt and tie. If you look at the outfit, you'll notice there are only really 2 colors in the whole thing, but it pops. I find that muted plaids lend themselves nicely to tattersall/gingham shirts, a striped shirt could just as easily be replaced here, but not too wide on the stripe spacing. What I would not wear here are a plaid shirt or tie, regardless of scale. The other thing I would keep in mind, when wearing patterns, the pattern itself are usually loud enough, no need to ramp up the volume by wearing crazy colors. Save the purple and green plaid tie for the solid navy jacket and blue shirt. the louder the pattern, the more muted the color should be.

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Next up is a somewhat similar outfit, brown coat, blue shirt, blue tie. This coat has a streak or rust/brick running through it, so while muted, it has a bit more pop than the one above. Because of that, I kept the shirt very conservative (short of a solid shirt) and the tie has complimentary colors in its pattern. I think everything here goes together tastefully, nothing clashes nor screams at you and nothing is matchy-matchy. Just because the jacket has that rust/brink line does not mean that I run out to find a tie or shirt with a similar color in it to pick up the jacket, matching is not good, coordinating is better.

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Now we get a little bit louder. I've noticed a few coats here, grey glen plaids/PoW's that have been too muted. On any pattern that a suit could be made of, you need to go bolder if it is a sportcoat. If it is a windowpane or PoW, it can't be too muted because then it looks like a suit jacket (applies mostly to worsted's). With a coat this loud, I am going to keep everything else as quiet as possible but since I need to have a patterned shirt and tie, I chose something brown as I find that brown "soothes" greys. Again, there are some coordinating colors and while a loud jacket, the outfit overall is not extremely loud. The big plaid of the jacket is large enough to not clash with the smaller checks of the shirt. the tie brings both things together.

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I ran out of daylight for the pics so that is all that I have for now, feel free to post your own combinations, questions or to take apart my combinations.
post #2 of 434
I never do this any more. The closest I get is a mircopattern in the suit like a sharkskin which is solid from a distance.

I think your first two are OK, the last the tones are too close.

Anyway, I am an old man who wears solids 99% of the time.
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I never do this any more. The closest I get is a mircopattern in the suit like a sharkskin which is solid from a distance.
I think your first two are OK, the last the tones are too close.
Anyway, I am an old man who wears solids 99% of the time.

I don't really do this either, I wear one pattern piece and that is pretty much it. My pics are not great. The last one is a grey jacket, shirt and tie are brown. Anyway, the hope is to turn this into an ongoing discussion thread with people posting there multiple patterned outfits.
post #4 of 434
When I wear an odd jacket, these days the tie is always a repp or knit. I never wear a printed or woven pattern.

The top pick of the bottom combo makes the coat look tan. In the bottom pic, I can tell it's gray.
post #5 of 434
All those combinations are far too busy to my eye :/
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All those combinations are far too busy to my eye :/

The point of the thread is about "busy" combinations. If they are not busy, then there is no need to really think about it. I'll gladly post pics of my daily outfits which consists of a patterned or solid sportcoat, solid blue shirt and navy tie if it makes you happy, not sure what there is to glean from that.
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The shapes in #1 match well. The stripes v. squares in #2 are too dissonant. #3 is a clusterfrick of "AH MY EYES!"

post #8 of 434
For what it's worth, I like all three, particularly how the colors complement each other in the first two. The way the scale of the checks and the jacket pattern mix in the third one doesn't quite fit, to me, but I like the color scheme. I could see (for the third one) how the color tone of the gray jacket and brown shirt may be too similar, but I really like the shirt/tie combo.
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The shapes in #1 match well. The stripes v. squares in #2 are too dissonant. #3 is a clusterfrick of "AH MY EYES!"

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For what it's worth, I like all three, particularly how the colors complement each other in the first two. The way the scale of the checks and the jacket pattern mix in the third one doesn't quite fit, to me, but I like the color scheme. I could see (for the third one) how the color tone of the gray jacket and brown shirt may be too similar, but I really like the shirt/tie combo.

Ok thats good. What would you guys change? If someone is sitting out there with a similar jacket and does not want to wear a solid shirt/tie, what do yo recommend. For me, I would have gone with a smaller checked shirt if I had one, a darker brown. I don't think stripes would work with this jacket. My picture colors are off, I wish the pics had come out better.
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The point of the thread is about "busy" combinations. If they are not busy, then there is no need to really think about it. I'll gladly post pics of my daily outfits which consists of a patterned or solid sportcoat, solid blue shirt and navy tie if it makes you happy, not sure what there is to glean from that.

What I'm saying is, if this is how to do 'busy' well, my suggestion is: don't.
post #11 of 434
Yeah, a smaller darker brown would work, and you could keep the tie. Have you set yourself an unnecessary challenge by not going with blue? I could see how you don't want it to be matchy-matchy, but isn't blue a default?

Is there something inherently tough about matching with glen plaids? I think you've succeeded, but it seems to be a particularly tough challenge, particularly with an overcheck.

What pant(a)s did you wear with the two jackets?
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Yeah, a smaller darker brown would work, and you could keep the tie. Have you set yourself an unnecessary challenge by not going with blue? I could see how you don't want it to be matchy-matchy, but isn't blue a default?
Is there something inherently tough about matching with glen plaids? I think you've succeeded, but it seems to be a particularly tough challenge, particularly with an overcheck.
What pant(a)s did you wear with the two jackets?

These are not combinations that I wore nor would wear as it is not my style but rather than tell someone, "just always wear a navy blazer, solid blue shirt and just about any tie and you'll be fine", I am saying, if you like to wear patterns, here are a few bases/foundations that we can look at/discuss and decide what is right/wrong about them and hopefully help someone that is looking at doing multipatterns. Discuss scale, colors etc.

I effectively wear two colors of pants (brown or grey), one color of shirt (blue) and one color of tie (navy) but I am not going to force that uniform down everyone's throat. One of the problems that the forum has undergone is that we are slowly beginning to look like Hugo Weaving in The Matrix. What is SF well dressed? Navy sportcoat/blazer suit and pair of double monks. Effectively the same exact shit that every blogger gushes over when some old italian guy is wearing it. I recognize that a lot of patterned stuff is gawdy and outfits could go wrong very easily but I'm tired of seeing the same crap everywhere. I can appreciate things I would never wear and there is a contingent here that likes to mix and match so this will hopefully turn into a repository for them. If all that matters anymore is soft shouldered/napoli/spalla whatever, double monks and anal beads, WTF is the point of coming here? There are about 100 bloggers that post that everyday.
post #13 of 434
Ed, I like the combos you posted but that last one I think is too busy - shirt/jacket I mean.

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Ed, I like the combos you posted but that last one I think is too busy - shirt/jacket I mean.
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Ok thats good. What would you guys change? If someone is sitting out there with a similar jacket and does not want to wear a solid shirt/tie, what do yo recommend. For me, I would have gone with a smaller checked shirt if I had one, a darker brown. I don't think stripes would work with this jacket. My picture colors are off, I wish the pics had come out better.
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