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post #31 of 45
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Originally Posted by cincydavid View Post

I guess the big question is this...who gets more tail? You or the slobs?

 

 I can't stand blue jeans, think they are terribly uncomfortable, so I wear khaki cotton trousers, I've done that since I was in college in the 80's.  I used to get razzed for overdressing, but the older I get, the less I hear about it.  You do have to be aware of your surroundings...wear fancy clothes to a biker bar and you'll likely get your ass beat.  

 

My personal, self-imposed casual dress "uniform" is khaki shorts, polo shirt and boat shoes in the summer, khaki pants and a long sleeve button down with loafers the rest of the year.  I don't have to think about it or worry about it, and my biggest decision becomes what color shirt to wear.  

David,

OMG dude I agree blue jeans are so uncomfortable I feel the same man. I love the feel trousers made of silk on my leg than hard cotton jeans on me.

 

YES you are correct wearing what we wear to a biker bar will get our asses kicked unless we are alisteer overeem im sure no one one will question him in a bar.

 

YES better dressed people are percieved more confident, get more tail, percieved more successful in society etc...so you from that you can guess who gets more tail me or my buds.

post #32 of 45
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Forgive me for being a contrarion to many of the threads on here, but I disagree to an extent.

I live in a city full of people without much ambission or care for their physical appearance. With that said, I get "You're a pretty boy aren't you?" quite a bit. That's even when I'm just wearing dress slacks and a golf shirt.

I always dress nicer than 99% of people in the bars/clubs in my town, but I definitely tone it down. I would dress completely different if I lived in a big city. You abviously don't want to go out looking like a slob, but if you're at a bar where there are people wearing cargo shorts and flip flops, you have the potential to come of pretentious.

Sometimes there's a time and a place to stand out and other times, it's not the worst thing in the world to be cleanly dressed, but toned down enough to enjoy the night.

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This is American Top 40 from Hollywood. Now, we're up to our long-distance dedication. This one goes entirely around the world. It comes in from small town boy Randomhero88, and here's what he writes:
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"Dear Casey, my long-distance dedication is to myself. I live in a city full of people without much ambission. Case in point: they can't spell. I always dress nicer than 99% of people in the bars and clubs in my town. With that said, I get "You're a pretty boy, aren't you?" quite a bit. When most of us would just break down and quit my stubborn determination let's me pickup the pieces and start all over again. In nice dress slacks and a mismatched golf shirt. Casey, could you kindly play Smalltown Boy by the Bronski Beat?"
Okay Randomhero88, here's your long-distance dedication.
post #33 of 45
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Originally Posted by chet31 View Post

...and there is some respect among slobs for a good pair of jeans. 

 

Is there?

 

About 99.99% of people in this country wear $10 Wranglers from Walmart. Among the great unwashed -- especially in certain parts of the Midwest or South -- paying more than about $50 for a pair of men's jeans is considered wildly extravagant, bordering on effeminate. (Ditto paying more than $100 for a pair of dress shoes, though, oddly enough, paying $200+ for a pair of Nikes is somehow ok).

 

Bottom line is that you're going to catch grief from the plebs at the local watering hole for dressing even remotely above them. If you're lucky, you may even hear the time-honored query "You think you're better than me?" (Note: the rejoinder "Actually, it's 'better than I'" will not ameliorate the tension in the bar).

 

So I guess the operative question is: what are you, a man of great taste, distinction, and breeding, doing in the local watering hole in the first place? If you think you're better than the locals, move to a better locale.

post #34 of 45
Well said Jackie Treehorn ^ ^ ^
post #35 of 45
Concern yourself when someone whose opinion you trust on the matter criticizes your dress.
post #36 of 45
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OP, I sympathize. I live in Madison WI, one of the more "casual" places to dress in the USA. By "casual," I mean jeans, t-shirt, jogging shoes, and maybe a backpack. That's if you're a tenured college professor. People who wear "North Face" are considered snobs. In addition, my friends are among the worst offenders.
You cannot dress crazily more formal than everyone else in your surroundings. For example, a lawyer wearing a tuxedo to court, or a 20-something wearing a Brook Bros sport coat, Incotex trousers, and Allen Edmonds Park Avenues to a campus dive bar. It's OK to dress a little better than your peers, but not too much better.
Sad but true, you sometimes have to dumb it down a bit. Some tricks. 1.) Do not wear "trousers." Wear jeans, they can be expensive, but you will at least blend in, and there is some respect among slobs for a good pair of jeans. 2.) Do not wear a sport coat unless it is at least jacket weather. This may still make you overdressed, in which case buy a nice leather jacket. Expensive leather jacket OK, expensive sport coat, not OK in many situations. 3.) If you wear a button-down shirt, don't tuck it in. 4.) If you are going to "splurge," footwear is the place to do it. T-shirt, jeans, John Lobbs will fly, because nobody will know what John Lobbs are.
Good luck.

 I couldn't agree more. In my town, I've literally seen people wear gym shorts to the bar. The most common attire is a t-shirt, cargo shorts, and flip flops. Or if they're "dressed up" it will be a Polo shirt, cinch white label jeans, and a pair of Ariat Square-Toe Boots.

 

Last weekend, I wore a button down, Citizens of Humanity Jeans, and a new pair of Creative Recreation Sneakers. I was dressed nicer than 95% of the people in the bar.

 

On the flip side of this, I see a ton of "ethnic" people in my town wearing 3-piece suits that aren't tailored and wearing a shirt/tie combo that came packaged together. It may be an attempt to look extra nice, but it comes off sleezy in person.

 

 

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This is American Top 40 from Hollywood. Now, we're up to our long-distance dedication. This one goes entirely around the world. It comes in from small town boy Randomhero88, and here's what he writes:
Okay Randomhero88, here's your long-distance dedication.

 Clever attempt to put me in my place. I realize my posts may sound cocky, but I don't mean them to be. I'd have a lot of learning to do if I lived in New York. I suppose you have to see what I'm speaking of to truly understand. I've seen people try to use food stamp cards at the bar, as said, people will wear gym shorts to the bar, I've had people try to fight me because I didn't fit in from a physical appearance standpoint in the bar.

 

And well played on being the Grammar Nazi. Firefox spell check is usually a saving grace for me, but I'm on I.E. at the moment. I can appreciate being called out when I contradict myself.

post #37 of 45

You dress casual... pants with a shirt tucked in and shoes is still casual.  I don't know what your friends grief is, but there is nothing "over the top" of what you are wearing, especially if you are older.  Some people don't like jeans, some are comfortable (like you) in pants and shoes.  It is what it is.  If you were around the 30 year old mark and you wore trousers all week long, maybe I would say something different, but if jeans and sneakers don't work for you, so be it.

 

How casual do you dress tho?  Certain pant/shirt combos can be more dressy/work related.  It all depends on what shoes you wear, how the pants are fit, the print, the style of the shirt... etc.  Sounds like I am splitting hairs, but i have button downs that i would never wear out because they are strictly "business casual" in my eyes, where i have others that i would never wear to work.

post #38 of 45
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, I like the feel of cotton touching my skin,

No im not young as some of you claim Iam in fact im older than probaby 50% of the SF members here I bet.

one, if you really said "i like the feel of cotton touching my skin", i'd probably think you were weird too.

two, if you are an old guy, then why do you give a shit? Typically once people hit their late 40s and 50s they stop giving a shit about what other people think and just do whatever the hell they want. If you are not on this train, but a ticket because it will make your life much easier.

three, find better friends.
post #39 of 45

This is funny, because I'm in the office at a pharmaceutical company and wearing a french cuff shirt (silk knots), trousers, nice polished shoes, and a watch - and people are asking me why I'm "all dressed up."  LOL  It's happened three times today.

post #40 of 45
Go to better bars or buy nice casual clothing. I like to wear a suit, but take no issue with toning it down for certain occassions. Mind you, some fabrics are more casual than others, so a sportcoat in linen or tweed is much less casual than one in worsted wool.
post #41 of 45
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

Go to better bars or buy nice casual clothing. I like to wear a suit, but take no issue with toning it down for certain occassions. Mind you, some fabrics are more casual than others, so a sportcoat in linen or tweed is much less casual than one in worsted wool.
Didn't you mean linen is more casual, SG?
post #42 of 45
hah, thank you!
post #43 of 45

From my part, the company for which i am working has a relaxed dress code for summer but i still wear suit and tie every day (exception being the hottest days of summer, i.e. more than 30 C). Also i never wear t-shirts, i will go for some polo shirts (kiton, brunello or lacoste depending on occasion)

post #44 of 45

In terms of office attire, you really have to put a little effort in dressing up nicely since dressing nicely is part of what personal grooming is about, but for casual gatherings, decent shirts and jeans will do.

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