Originally Posted by edmorel
If I was in a decent mood, I'd educate you on how Seiko is more of a true watch brand than 95% of what you consider Swiss, how they are more innovative and have more history with mechanical movements and how among the watch people in the know, at the high end (grand seiko), they are considered to be among top 10 probably.
Your post comes off awfully condescending, either by intention or not. I made sure to add a disclaimer that just because a watch is not swiss made, does not mean that it isn't of high quality.
With any high end item such as watches, pens, shoes, etc, you are going to pay a premium for history and reputation. Do Patek Philippe watches cost tens of thousands of dollars to make? Of course not, but their reputation is worth the markup. Mont Blanc is another perfect example. Their markup is something ridiculous like 90%. However, the resale market is still ridiculously high because the demand is there.
Seiko makes great watches, I will be one of the first to agree with that. However, they don't have the reputation for being a high end luxury item. They are more than worth their value and they are well made timepieces, however, I would never spend thousands of dollars on one. There is a Chinese manufacturer making Rolex replicas with extreme precision. They have several hundred dollar movements, quality built cases and bracelets and they even have their own specific serial numbers. They sell for $600-1000. In the end, they're more than worth the price as far as build quality is concerned, but does that make them worth the same price as an authentic Submariner? In my opinion, no.
Baume et Mercier isn't the best watch for the value. I agree with that. However, they have a fairly rich history, a prestigous ownership, and their watches are solidly built. They are certainly one of the best values for the money at least in my opinion(and many others).
My best advice is to look into what the retail is and what they go for used. As I said before, I paid $700 for my Capeland S. I've seen them go for as high as $1200-1400 in used condition on Ebay. That means I got my timepiece at a good price. Find something you like, something that is well made, and something that will hold its value and if you can accomplish all three of those, you're making a good investment.