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post #31 of 61
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

I really hope Vox drops by and lays down a fantastic explanation of the history behind french cuffs. Really.

Me too.
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Originally Posted by Ich_Dien View Post

If you roll up the sleeves its fine.

Same here
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Originally Posted by deandbn View Post

(...) It is all conjecture and personal opinions. (...)

To a point, but it's also a matter of how comfortable you are with breaking a 'rule' and pairing odd things together
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Originally Posted by Gdot View Post

I wear french cuffs predominently. Almost exclusively. With suits, with odd jackets, with trousers and no jacket. Pretty much as long as I'm not wearing khakis or jeans I'm likely to have double cuffs. (...).
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'French cuffs' is a term solely associated with the US. In the UK they are known as 'double cuffs'. A very large percentage of suits sold for business use are in this form and it is quite normal for office people of all ranks in a company to wear them.
Why those in the US use this term - which would seem to be to insult the French, has never emerged here.

"Freedom cuffs", s'il vous plait.

I wear them regularly, rolled-up or not, with jackets (silk knots) or not. That said, re: breaking rules, I'll wear them with slacks or jeans but not khakis - when you break a rule, you don't want to go half-way. FC + slacks looks like you left the jacket off, FC + jeans is deliberately breaking the rules, but FC + khaki treads the uncomfortable middle ground of either (1) didn't get the memo or (2) the neutered type of rebellion that hopes the parents don't get upset.
post #32 of 61
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Originally Posted by tobiasj View Post

OP, I suggest that (if you haven't already) you read this: http://www.styleforum.net/t/287922/practical-thoughts-on-coherent-combinations-for-beginners
The problem is that French cuffs and a spread collar are at the formal end of the spectrum. Casual clothes like jeans are on the other end of the spectrum. And that's why it will ALWAYS look odd combining the two, no matter what idiots people will try to tell you. Get some barrel cuff button downs for casual wear, save the French cuffs for formal. Please.

Once again, I respectfully disagree, but I think it may have more to do with what I wear denim for as compared to others on the MC forum. I'm a jeans/dress shirt/sports coat guy in any business casual/nice restaurant/anything else not requiring a suit setting and have no problem wearing a double cuff shirt with that type of outfit. Granted, I'm not wearing faded Levi's and sneakers at the time, but they're still jeans and they still look just fine together.
post #33 of 61
^^ Alright, nice post. I'm not saying it can't be made to look good, and what you're describing sounds fine. Without knowing how well or badly OP dresses though, I would be very hesitant to tell him to go for it.

Here is a relevant recent quote from Vox:

"I think that the rate of rules-adherence on StyFo is so low that it is an unlikely culprit in the high frequency of dull, weird, or disoriented looks and opinions here."

I heartily agree. The WIWT threads do not give one confidence that people should be breaking 'the rules', and that's why I would recommend that OP follow them, and save his formal shirts for more formal outfits and occasions.
post #34 of 61
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Originally Posted by Man Of Lint View Post

+1 to your +1 and also to your comment.
Were I a 20-something year old and wanted to wear a French/Double cuffed shirt casually, I would entertain these options:
  • Slim (not tight) denim pants, an odd waistcoat, skinny tie, a nice pair of well maintained and polished black shoes, summer Panama hat and possibly Ray-Ban Wayfarers.
  • Sport or seersucker jacket, slim tie, Straight-legged cream linen pants, slightly darker than cream socks, Spectator shoes, Panama hat.
  • Slim linen pants, suspenders (braces), skinny tie (2.74"-3"), shoes of any colour other than black or dark brown, Panama or lightweight fedora.
  • Shorts, odd contrasting fun waistcoat (not from a suit), sunglasses, loafers, no tie, shirt cuffs & sleeves rolled up, straw hat optional, chunky sport watch.
In imagining these suggestions, bear in mind that my strategy would be to tone down if not control the formality of the cuffs and collar at hand. It would be a little tricky or perhaps even bordering on costume but I believe it can be done and could be fun.
P.S.
Welcome to Styleforum and warm greetings to you and the wonderful people of Finland.

I don't mean to be rude but I strongly disagree with these suggestions. The second one is reasonably normal, if anachronistic, but random waistcoats in summer and exposed braces with skinny ties are best left to Pete Doherty. I think the average person on the street would do a confused double take if they passed someone wearing these combinations.
post #35 of 61
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Originally Posted by emc894 View Post

I don't mean to be rude but I strongly disagree with these suggestions. The second one is reasonably normal, if anachronistic, but random waistcoats in summer and exposed braces with skinny ties are best left to Pete Doherty. I think the average person on the street would do a confused double take if they passed someone wearing these combinations.

Yea, I could get behind 1 and 2 (w/o the hat) but 3 and 4 are nonstarters for me.
post #36 of 61

French cuffs shirt with spread collars is meant to be worn by itself and that what makes it stylish.

post #37 of 61
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Originally Posted by jones12 View Post

French cuffs shirt with spread collars is meant to be worn by itself and that what makes it stylish.

Welcome to StyleForvm.
post #38 of 61
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Originally Posted by jones12 View Post

French cuffs shirt with spread collars is meant to be worn by itself and that what makes it stylish.

what about trousers? confused.gif
post #39 of 61
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Originally Posted by Gdot View Post

I wear french cuffs predominently. Almost exclusively. With suits, with odd jackets, with trousers and no jacket. Pretty much as long as I'm not wearing khakis or jeans I'm likely to have double cuffs. I do dial the fabric choices and choice of cufflinks up and down based on formality. So with something casual it's a tattersail and the cufflinks would be something less serious, like mid century sterlling silver and wood from Taxco or something kooky from an American modernists.

+1
post #40 of 61
Why cant you wear FCs with khakis (I assume this is meant to be chinos?)?

I wear suits 5 times per week and dress in shirts + chinos on the weekends (often times wearing the shirt underneath a sweater) and wanted to start replacing all my regular cuff shirts with french cuff shirts. This no FC with chinos has me worrying now.
post #41 of 61
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Originally Posted by Spurious View Post

Why cant you wear FCs with khakis (I assume this is meant to be chinos?)?
I wear suits 5 times per week and dress in shirts + chinos on the weekends (often times wearing the shirt underneath a sweater) and wanted to start replacing all my regular cuff shirts with french cuff shirts. This no FC with chinos has me worrying now.

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post #42 of 61
Enjoy your shirts and don't be bugged down with silly rules. You need your individual and effortless style, not following zombie rules
post #43 of 61
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Originally Posted by Spurious View Post

Why cant you wear FCs with khakis (I assume this is meant to be chinos?)?
I wear suits 5 times per week and dress in shirts + chinos on the weekends (often times wearing the shirt underneath a sweater) and wanted to start replacing all my regular cuff shirts with french cuff shirts. This no FC with chinos has me worrying now.

Honestly, I'd be more worried about FC and sweaters, since I've never thought that looked right; you either have to have the entire cuff stick out or you get a huge lump. If you're going to do this, perhaps invest in some really flat links (I've even seen some that are essentially two buttons sewn together with thread in the middle that come with FC shirts) and fasten them as you would a button cuff to avoid this.
post #44 of 61
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Originally Posted by ter1413 View Post

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Not sure I understand what you are trying to say, but worrying might be the wrong word.
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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post

Honestly, I'd be more worried about FC and sweaters, since I've never thought that looked right; you either have to have the entire cuff stick out or you get a huge lump. If you're going to do this, perhaps invest in some really flat links (I've even seen some that are essentially two buttons sewn together with thread in the middle that come with FC shirts) and fasten them as you would a button cuff to avoid this.

Yeah, agree, it doesnt work with all cuff links and I will still have my regular cuff shirts. But looking forward, I prefer wearing double cuffed shirts.
post #45 of 61
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Originally Posted by Spurious View Post

Not sure I understand what you are trying to say, but worrying might be the wrong word.
Yeah, agree, it doesnt work with all cuff links and I will still have my regular cuff shirts. But looking forward, I prefer wearing double cuffed shirts.

I think he was trying to say that it's frustrating to him to see someone worry about wearing DC shirts with chinos since, in his mind (and mine, for that matter), it's perfectly acceptable.
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