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post #241 of 265
where are the scousers?
post #242 of 265
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I can't lie,I am over the moon that Milan won.I couldn't take listening to the scousers for the next 12 months.
There have just been some interviews with several Liverpool players and they have shown great dignity and grace.
A final thought,why couldn't Milan have been that bad against us in the semi.
post #243 of 265
G'day all, Bad day at the office. There are some moments I know we're going to concede- whenever I see O'Shea lurking near the death of a game at a set-piece, or in this case, the moment I saw Alonso knock Kaka over. It wasn't a dive- momentum made the fall look theatrical. It was a lucky goal, Stevie's 1-on-1 miss and the late goal killed it for us. Milan were not as good as many predicted, and Liverpool played much better than they are given credit for. United need a Hargreaves to shut down teams, like Liverpool did Milan's midfield (to an extent, since Kaka was involved in both goals). Scholes is a horrible tackler, and Keane-type players are a modern necessity. Owen H is overpriced at 17mil. Makalele would have been a better option, as a stopgap for a year, while the bid price tumbled for OH. Finally, how I hope Liverpool sign a creative midfielder and top class finisher- it was frustrating to see Kuyt having to do that much work in midfield, so when Pennant (class game) whipped a cross in, there was usually no sign of him. Congratulations Milan, on number 7?
post #244 of 265
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Originally Posted by romafan View Post
Shoulder of God
Seriously; can anyone please explain how that wasn't a handball? Liverpool were the better side, but give credit to Inzaghi for twice being in the right place at the right time; his second goal was well deserved.
post #245 of 265
Shitty game from both sides. They should hang their heads in shame.
post #246 of 265
I only saw the first half. To my mind, Liverpool had the better of the play w/ Pennant creating havoc on the right. On the first replay I thought Pippo (Super Pippo?) had done an amazing job redrecting Pirlo's freekick w/ his head. Subsequent replays showed it pretty clearly to be a hand ball, although I didn't see any John Madden-type 'freeze-frames', and I suppose the ball could have deflected off the top part of his shoulder (would that be a hand ball?). Looked like the goal should have been disallowed though....

So, Istanbul has been avenged, and Paolo Maldini hoists his 5th(?!) CL Cup - pretty awesome.
post #247 of 265
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I hope the Northern Leaguers do down the chirpers ...

Much as I had hoped!
post #248 of 265
Pennant played well, though the final product was lacking most of the time. Kaka was quite except for the build up to the second goal, but then it just takes a moment of inspiration.

And yes, if Liverpool had won there supporters would have been even more unbearable
post #249 of 265
I finally got to see the game late last night after work. My thoughts (having not read the previous posts)

Liverpool had the run of the first half and then the second was pretty even (i.e. crappy for both). Pennant ran circles around Milan's L back. But then he (the back) seemed to pick it up in the 2nd half.

Overall the game was pretty lousy. Not great play. In particular, I expected more from virtually everyone on the pitch. Only Pennant and Inzaghi can really be credited with much. I expected a fast-paced game and we didn't see anything near "fast".

Gerrard should have scored--I was amazed he didn't.

On the first goal Inzaghi did not handle the ball by my view--he moved just slightly so it skimmed his chest. But the goal should have counted for Pirlo, anyway, Inzaghi's part seemed pretty accidental.

Inzaghi's second, however, was great. Beautiful work by all involved.

One could make an argument that Kuyt's goal was actually offsides. The ball glanced off a Milan defender's head on its way to him, but that's usually not enough for me to rule that as the last touch. Assuming the earlier header (from Crouch?) was the last touch, Kuyt was clearly offsides. In the end it doesn't matter.

The officiating was horrible. But it went both ways. I think this contributed to the choppy-ness of the first half.

Kudos to Maldini for #5. And let's note, it's Seedorf's 4th and with his 3rd club: Ajax, Real Madrid, and AC Milan (x2).

Overall, it was not a brilliant game. And I note that Rafa is cleaning house already this morning. We can count the following out of any more Liverpool games (some announced earlier): Fowler, Dudeck, Zenden, and someone else got the boot this morning too. He's really overhauling the squad.

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post #250 of 265
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Just checked - Ronaldo made several appearances for Real in the Group Stage last fall. He is ineligible to play, but can party afterward
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Gotcha. My memory is off. I think maybe it was Figo's transfer that threw me. He left RM at the end of last season, right?

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post #251 of 265
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Originally Posted by strazzaque View Post
G'day all,
Bad day at the office. There are some moments I know we're going to concede- whenever I see O'Shea lurking near the death of a game at a set-piece, or in this case, the moment I saw Alonso knock Kaka over.

It wasn't a dive- momentum made the fall look theatrical. It was a lucky goal, Stevie's 1-on-1 miss and the late goal killed it for us.

Milan were not as good as many predicted, and Liverpool played much better than they are given credit for.

United need a Hargreaves to shut down teams, like Liverpool did Milan's midfield (to an extent, since Kaka was involved in both goals).

Scholes is a horrible tackler, and Keane-type players are a modern necessity. Owen H is overpriced at 17mil. Makalele would have been a better option, as a stopgap for a year, while the bid price tumbled for OH.

Finally, how I hope Liverpool sign a creative midfielder and top class finisher- it was frustrating to see Kuyt having to do that much work in midfield, so when Pennant (class game) whipped a cross in, there was usually no sign of him.

Congratulations Milan, on number 7?

I have to disagree on Hargreaves,obviously time will tell but I think he is a different gravy.Every single time I watch Bayern he is man of the match and has been for around 3 years.I am overjoyed at Utd's signing of him.
post #252 of 265
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Originally Posted by Bona Drag View Post
Seriously; can anyone please explain how that wasn't a handball?


Liverpool were the better side, but give credit to Inzaghi for twice being in the right place at the right time; his second goal was well deserved.

It was probably a handball,but one thing I have not seen mentioned in any newspaper or report is the fact that Kuijt was 2 yards offside for his goal.
post #253 of 265
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Originally Posted by benecios View Post
It was probably a handball,but one thing I have not seen mentioned in any newspaper or report is the fact that that Kuijt was 2 yards offside for his goal.
Probably because it didn't matter in the end. Also the tabloids tend to be rather parochial. PS I have my copy of the official magazines end of season issue and will preorder the official DVD
post #254 of 265
Here's a question from a dumb yank: Is it a handball if the player (Inzaghi) is facing away from the ball (i.e can't see it coming and presumably doesn't know it's going to hit him) and has his arm down at his side, against his body and not at all extended, so that it is in effect part of his side?
post #255 of 265
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Originally Posted by romafan View Post
Here's a question from a dumb yank: Is it a handball if the player (Inzaghi) is facing away from the ball (i.e can't see it coming and presumably doesn't know it's going to hit him) and has his arm down at his side, against his body and not at all extended, so that it is in effect part of his side?

Tough call. I say go with advantage and intent. If no intent (don't see it coming), then did the handle give the player an advantage? If yes, call it. If no, let it go. If the ball ends up in the back of the net, definitely call it. But I have seen handling not called simply because the "ball played the player, the player didn't play the ball" so to speak.

But, again, I don't think it hit is arm. Just imo from my viewing.

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