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post #331 of 593

Read about this. Just listened to parts of the interview. Didn;t think it was that awkward (at least for the viewer) maybe for the team. Bizzare that someone would hype themself so much when they haven't accomplished anything. Win a medal and then tell everyone you're an old virgin.
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Maybe I'm reading too much into all this, or expecting too much out of these kids....

....but I lost some respect for Raisman and Douglas the night of the team qualifying. Raisman and Douglas had just qualified at the expense of their supposed friend and teammate, who was literally standing RIGHT BEHIND THEM sobbing her guts out, and neither was classy enough to mention Wieber. They were both all smiles, which I guess is understandable to an extent, but I found the whole visual with their excitement cast against the disappointment of a teammate they both refused to even acknowledge, just had a huge ick factor to me.

In the meantime, Wieber seemed to stay very classy throughout.

I'm DVR'ing mens water polo today, looking forward to checking it out tonight.
post #333 of 593
I was sick of the Lolo Jones hype before the Olympics even started. Can't imagine how her teammates feel.
post #334 of 593
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This is the big problem with US coverage - the hype machine. Poor Jones - she didn't ask for any of this, and hey, who would turn it down? It's worth millions in sponsorships.

It's part of what makes the Michael Phelps 8-gold performance in the last Olympics extra amazing - he performed with all that hype on his back.
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Not likely. Female gymnasts usually only have 1 Olympic window now. Look at Nastia and Shawn Johnson who couldn't even make the team this year.

The most impressive part of the olympics for me was seeing that 37-year-old compete in the vault finals. Crazy. But any country with any depth is going to take the best all-around athletes now since they can only take 5.
Edited by Van Veen - 8/8/12 at 10:20am
post #337 of 593
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Her snubbing the Russian didn't help her any. 

Epke Zonderland's high bar was the best thing I've seen in a while: http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/gymnastics/highlights-epke-zonderlands-gold-medal-high-bar-routine.html

lefty

That was awesome. Honestly, how can you not like a guy named Epke Zonderland?
post #338 of 593

In that race, I don't care what country your television network is from, you should be interviewing Harper and the Australian girl. That was an incredible race, won literally a hair and was the most exciting race, maybe event, so far. The fact that the focus of the race was Lolo Jones tells you everything you need to know about NBC's coverage.
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This is the big problem with US coverage - the hype machine. Poor Jones - she didn't ask for any of this, and hey, who would turn it down? It's worth millions in sponsorships.
It's part of what makes the Michael Phelps 8-gold performance in the last Olympics extra amazing - he performed with all that hype on his back.

I think she did ask for this. Otherwise she wouldn't have constantly hyped her virginity. She would have said, "that's a personal decision and has no bearing on how I run." But that wouldn't get her as much publicity and, ultimately, money. So the question is... is she happier with the money and publicity than she would have been with the respect of her teammates and potentially an Olympic medal?
post #340 of 593
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I think she did ask for this. Otherwise she wouldn't have constantly hyped her virginity. She would have said, "that's a personal decision and has no bearing on how I run." But that wouldn't get her as much publicity and, ultimately, money. So the question is... is she happier with the money and publicity than she would have been with the respect of her teammates and potentially an Olympic medal?

happier, probably not. Richer, definitely yes. If she wants to keep her image though, she has to be very careful how she plays this loss and this in team fighting. If she comes off whiny and portraying herself as a victim, she can easily lose all her sponsorships. Next up for her, Dancing with teh Stars and then a Subway commercial. I only hope that Harper and Wells can get some coin from thier great performances, but they'll probably never make Lolo money unfortunately.
post #341 of 593
She was on the Today show crying about the media's unfair treatment.
post #342 of 593
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meh. I'm unconvinced.

I'll walk back a little and admit, yes, she bought into the hype machine, but again, who wouldn't? These are just track and field athletes. They make some money, but not a ton, and they have a very small window of opportunity to capitalize on this and turn it into a big wad of cash. Jones, a light-skinned African American with a chaste image, was the perfect marketing opportunity. She played her hand, and got rich.

So she didn't win. She was pretty good - she was a favorite in Beijing, and got unlucky, or whatever you want to call it. She choked. She lost. OK, fine. But she was a favorite, and was winning when she tripped. But the hype, the media coverage, has nothing to do with how she performed.

The other girls aren't giving her "respect" not because they think she got too much attention, but rather because they would rather have had the attention for themselves. Their grapes are as sour as anyone else's.

Now it's time for the media, which is the chief architect of the hype, to wring hands over the over-hype, and indulge in the schadenfreude. The ultimate hypocrisy.
post #343 of 593
From experience, in a competitive field that's supposed to be merit-based, if you become known as someone who tries to self-promote and play politics to get ahead, you will get a reputation that spreads very, very quickly. Now, if the self-promotion is working and making you money, it's up to you to decide whether or not you care about that reputation and the respect of your peers. In my experience, most people like that are oblivious to the fact that the even have a reputation, so it probably doesn't matter to them.
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Read about this. Just listened to parts of the interview. Didn;t think it was that awkward (at least for the viewer) maybe for the team. Bizzare that someone would hype themself so much when they haven't accomplished anything. Win a medal and then tell everyone you're an old virgin.

She's won a couple of World Championships and a World Indoor title. It's not like she sucks and only got to where she is because of her virginity and looks. There was a reason why she was the heavy favorite to win in Beijing and was leading all the way up until the 9th hurdle.
post #345 of 593

I know this isn't the point...

But I love waking up to Michelle Beadle in the NBC studio.

She's looking great.
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