MacBook Pro Retina

Jr Mouse · Jun 26, 2012

Teger said:
bruinsfan: seriously? of course it's a balance of weight, performance and price. and show me a better 13" lightweight laptop than the air.

Macbook Air's are a perfect example of why Apple's products are not always "overpriced" and can be leaders in this area. It wasn't until recently that PC manufacturers were able to match the Air's specs to price ratio. Often once you upgraded the base models to meet Apple's offerings the PC ultrabooks were more expensive.

Blackhood · Jun 26, 2012

This is true, often the more you spend with Apple the better the value. The entry-level is "Buy-for-the-Brand" rip-offs like the Hermes Belt. Once you're buying the top-end offerings they represent amazing value and quality.

Jr Mouse · Jun 26, 2012

I would frame it more to the fact that Apple doesn't sell low end stuff in an effort to beat the competition in a race to the bottom. Sure you can find a laptop under $400 on the market these days, but they are largely junk. Cheaply made with bottom line specs. Apple doesn't cater to that market. They sell well made products, using premium materials and components, across the whole line. Even the least expensive offerings they have, like the iPod Shuffle, have a nicer fit and finish to them then what the competition can offer for the same price.

sinnedk · Jun 26, 2012

guys apple is like the "ferrari" of the computer world, they are considered upscale and sleek and cater to those who want that. with that said you can easily get a dell/sony/etc laptop with same performance as a MBP with the same "industrial" parts apple uses but then the laptop would cost either the same or more and look ugly. apple is known for using high end internal components that other pc manufacturers dont, they can but it will cost. go build a dell laptop w/mbp specs prob same price or more (retina display excluded)

edit: dell's mbp version http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...b&model_id=xps-15-l521x&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19 cost is 1699.99

A Y · Jun 26, 2012

stevent said:
If you're in the bay, why not get an employee discount from a friend, easy $400-700 saved

Apparently, employee and corporate discounts are not available for the Retina MBP due to low supply/high demand.

Jr Mouse · Jun 26, 2012

A Y said:
Apparently, employee and corporate discounts are not available for the Retina MBP due to low supply/high demand.

Doesn't surprise me. It's going to take a while for ep to ramp up production and it can't be easy to get the screens at anything approaching a high volume right now.

ter1413 · Jun 26, 2012

sinnedk said:
guys apple is like the "ferrari" of the computer world, they are considered upscale and sleek and cater to those who want that. with that said you can easily get a dell/sony/etc laptop with same performance as a MBP with the same "industrial" parts apple uses but then the laptop would cost either the same or more and look ugly. apple is known for using high end internal components that other pc manufacturers dont, they can but it will cost. go build a dell laptop w/mbp specs prob same price or more (retina display excluded)
[COLOR=FF00AA]edit: dell's mbp version http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...b&model_id=xps-15-l521x&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19 cost is 1699.99[/COLOR]

Jr Mouse · Jun 26, 2012

sinnedk said:
guys apple is like the "ferrari" of the computer world, they are considered upscale and sleek and cater to those who want that. with that said you can easily get a dell/sony/etc laptop with same performance as a MBP with the same "industrial" parts apple uses but then the laptop would cost either the same or more and look ugly. apple is known for using high end internal components that other pc manufacturers dont, they can but it will cost. go build a dell laptop w/mbp specs prob same price or more (retina display excluded)

edit: dell's mbp version http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...b&model_id=xps-15-l521x&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19 cost is 1699.99

EDIT: My bad. When I first read your post I thought you were comparing it to the new MB Pro with Retina. On rereading it, I realized it's meant to compare to the older design of MacBook Pro without Retina that Apple still sells and retails for around the same price.

No one else has anything on the market that can compare to the Retina model so we will have to wait for any direct comparisons in features and price.

sinnedk · Jun 26, 2012

JMRouse said:
EDIT: My bad. When I first read your post I thought you were comparing it to the new MB Pro with Retina. On retreading it, I realized it's meant to compare to the older design of MacBook Pro without Retina that Apple still sells and retails for around the same price.
No one else has anything on the market that can compare to the Retina model so we will have to wait for any direct comparisons in features and price.

exactly

Mark it 8 · Jun 26, 2012

One thing I have learned from buying apple laptops is to wait for the second or third gen. The price drops, and, most importantly, the inevitable kinks are worked out.

Jr Mouse · Jun 27, 2012

Mark it 8 said:
One thing I have learned from buying apple laptops is to wait for the second or third gen. The price drops, and, most importantly, the inevitable kinks are worked out.

I agree with this. It's something to keep in mind with most new tech products, not just those from Apple. I'm actually kind of surprised we haven't Ben hearing about any issues with this new laptop, but expect it to come soon.

TRINI · Jun 27, 2012

JMRouse said:
I agree with this. It's something to keep in mind with most new tech products, not just those from Apple. I'm actually kind of surprised we haven't Ben hearing about any issues with this new laptop, but expect it to come soon.

Ghosting on the Retina display & Chrome crashing the MBAs

Fraiche · Jun 27, 2012

People asking about why they want a Mac over PC is like asking why people choose BMW over Toyota.

Specs aren't the only thing people are willing to pay for.

Apple does have something far superior to any PC manufacturer and that is their customer service. Every time I've had an issue, they fix it at no cost without any hassle whatsoever. I've never been more pleased with warranty service. No forms, no hoops to jump through, nothing at all.

Jr Mouse · Jun 27, 2012

TRINI said:
Ghosting on the Retina display & Chrome crashing the MBAs

Nothing major and both sound like they could be fixed with a firmware update. I was more worried about them overheating or other build issues that can be a long term problem and harder to fix.

Jr Mouse · Jun 27, 2012

Also to those who say the screen is not that big of a deal, I think it's something you have to spend a little time with. A quick demo at the Apple store won't do it. Once you get used to the clarity and pixel density that the Retina display provides, it will be hard to go back. Easy examples of this are the iPhone 4/4S and new iPad's screens. At this point, I can't stand even looking at the older models. It's jarring to the eyes.

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