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post #466 of 547

OMG! Someone on the internet doesn't agree with me! What a shocker...

 

<sarcasm>I do need to congratulate you for this most excellent retort, filled with clever insights and facts. Really well done.</sarcasm>

 

Your last point is utter bullshit though. People perceive pain very differently, depending on age and personality. Medically speaking, the electrical impulses that we call pain are the same in all healthy individuals. However, how people react to this stimulation is very different from person to person. 

 

I hope you never have kids. Not for your sake, but for the kids. 

post #467 of 547
You're hopelessly stupid, really. You're right, I can't say if being pulled by the hair hurts or not because maybe someone will 'perceive' the pain differently despite the fact that the physics of pulling on a mass of hair won't ever fucking change. Let me rephrase since you're too stupid to comprehend something that isn't entirely laid out for you: when pulling on a mass of hair the pain response is proportional to the force applied at the hair root, so a greater number of hairs will attenuate the force being applied to each hair and cause lessened pain response than would occur for a fewer number of hairs.

The rest of your post was just nonsense. Since I'm apparently feeling charitable with my time today, here's a few quick statements that were sufficiently stupid for me to call you a moron:
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Originally Posted by Maximator 
On a related note, if violence is such a great educationl tool, why not use it on adults as well? Your staff isn't learning the new protocol fast enough? Give them 5 with the ruler. A subordinate mouthes off to you in front of everyone? Take out the belt, they'll definitively learn this way.

Because they're emotionally and intellectually mature (or at least that's implicit in my definition of 'adult'), which is precisely the opposite of the children we're discussing here.
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Originally Posted by Maximator 
As for the question how we had well behaved kids before the 30's, there are 2 answers. First of all, it's over 80 years ago so no one is actually alive to tell us how it really was(from an adults perspective) so I think MANY are seeing this through rose colored glasses, and secondly, kids where scared. Fear, combined with the need to conform are powerful motivators not to act out of line.

Yes, there is nobody alive over 80 years old. Also, children were only given corporal punishment before the 1930's (after which it ceased worldwide).
post #468 of 547

Regardless of whether corporal punishment is appropriate for children (or at all), we can probably all agree that such punishment (if administered), should be done so with a cool and level head. It is intended as an instructional tool and not as a vent for a parent's frustration.

 

It seems like this lady was practicing the latter more than the former.

post #469 of 547
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You're hopelessly stupid, really. You're right, I can't say if being pulled by the hair hurts or not because maybe someone will 'perceive' the pain differently despite the fact that the physics of pulling on a mass of hair won't ever fucking change. Let me rephrase since you're too stupid to comprehend something that isn't entirely laid out for you: when pulling on a mass of hair the pain response is proportional to the force applied at the hair root, so a greater number of hairs will attenuate the force being applied to each hair and cause lessened pain response than would occur for a fewer number of hairs.

The rest of your post was just nonsense. Since I'm apparently feeling charitable with my time today, here's a few quick statements that were sufficiently stupid for me to call you a moron:
Because they're emotionally and intellectually mature (or at least that's implicit in my definition of 'adult'), which is precisely the opposite of the children we're discussing here.
Yes, there is nobody alive over 80 years old. Also, children were only given corporal punishment before the 1930's (after which it ceased worldwide).

 

Actually, I'm perfectly able to understand the physics behind pulling someones hair. However, that's not what I'm talking about. I am talking about psychology. While the pain impulses may be the same, people can have very different reactions to the same amounts of pain, depending on a multitude of factors. 

 

Just because someone is legally an adult, that does not make them emotionally or intellectually mature. If those are the criteria for being an adult, MANY individuals would fail to qualify.

 

I obviously know that child beating hasn't stopped in 1930. However, I do want to think that it has been drastically reduced, in both frequency and severity. Also, if a person was an adult in the  30's(which was what I was referring to) that would make them 100 years old. Not many of them around. 

 

Since you thing corporal punishment is good, do you think that today's teachers should be able to use it on children? I mean, they do play an important part in a Child's upbringing. 

 

I am also still waiting on the evidence from you that corporal punishment is a good way to raise a kid, besides "It happened to me and I'm normal".

post #470 of 547
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Since you thing corporal punishment is good, do you think that today's teachers should be able to use it on children? I mean, they do play an important part in a Child's upbringing.

I am very against corporal punishment and beyond a certain point it becomes domestic violence. A very close friend of mine, in her early twenties, is regularly hit in the face by her father, occasionally drawing blood (the father being an alcoholic as well). This is much more common in Korea (and I imagine in China, where I believe you live) than in the west and because children, especially female children, live with their parents until well intoadulthood, you really have to wonder about the limits of the parents' purview in this.

 

On the other hand, the educator comparison seems a little misleading. The role in upbringing is merely a factor in which a parent should be allowed to beat their child or not...that the parent is the legal guardian of that child would seem to be a bigger factor.

post #471 of 547
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Corporal punishment works, but nobody does that anymore because if you do it you're an evil child-beating scumbag. Makes me wonder how people could generally be well-adjusted and well-behaved before the 1990s given all the screwed-up children parents and teachers must have been producing. Certainly now it's better, what with Gen-Y kids being so orderly and disciplined and all.

The thing is, the emotionally and intellectually-immature children are precisely the ones who are most disciplined by corporal punishment. Usually it only takes one time for the kid to realize 'hey, that's not a good idea and has consequences'. After that a certain look or tone is enough to get the child to realize enough is enough.

I remember fighting with my brother once at my uncle's house and thought since my parents were in the other room talking to my uncle I could get away with it. My aunt came in the room with a ruler and set us straight. laugh.gif

My mother lodged her foot in my ass very often. I think it straightened me out for sure.
post #472 of 547
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On a related note, if violence is such a great educationl tool, why not use it on adults as well?

Why don't you mouth off to the wrong guy and see how quickly you get 'educated' on the proper behavior.
post #473 of 547
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My mother lodged her foot in my ass very often. I think it straightened me out for sure.


Huh...usually when something gets lodged in an ass it has the opposite effect rolleyes.gif

post #474 of 547
It all comes down to home training. By at least 3-4 yo I had my boys trained to the point that if we were in public I could give them a look and they immediately straightened up. Still works to this day.
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Huh...usually when something gets lodged in an ass it has the opposite effect rolleyes.gif

Had a lot of experience with stuff lodged in your ass?
post #476 of 547

To all of you that complain about air quality in the US, This is what Beijing looked like last weekend...

 

 

 

and this is the air quality reading that went with it...

 

 

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So yea, the US EPA scale that the US embassy uses only goes to 500(hazardous) 

 

It was a truly WTF is happening to the air these days moment. 

 

I actually forgot to check the pollution reading that day and biked 20k to and from work in that air(with a face mask). Now my body hates me for life...

post #477 of 547

Why does it get that bad? Too many cars, too many factories, dust storms, combination of all those things?

 

Stay safe!
 

post #478 of 547
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Why does it get that bad? Too many cars, too many factories, dust storms, combination of all those things?

 

Stay safe!
 

A combination of lack of wind for a few days, extreme pollution output(from cars, factories etc) and the fact that the central heating system is on(the central heating system is government controlled, and they usually use coal in the power-plants, so yea...)

 

When it comes to Beijing air, safe is a relative concept. As long as it's between 250 and 350 it's normal. Anything below that is amazing, at least in the winter. During the summer it's usually between 150 and 300.

post #479 of 547
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Had a lot of experience with stuff lodged in your ass?


Only when I could afford it.

post #480 of 547
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Originally Posted by upthewazzu View Post

Why does it get that bad? Too many cars, too many factories, dust storms, combination of all those things?

Stay safe!
 
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Originally Posted by Maximator View Post

A combination of lack of wind for a few days, extreme pollution output(from cars, factories etc) and the fact that the central heating system is on(the central heating system is government controlled, and they usually use coal in the power-plants, so yea...)

When it comes to Beijing air, safe is a relative concept. As long as it's between 250 and 350 it's normal. Anything below that is amazing, at least in the winter. During the summer it's usually between 150 and 300.

The cost of progress, huh?
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