Originally Posted by UnnamedPlayer
why is there horse shit in the city?
Police and Carlsberg delivery horses.
Originally Posted by Fang66 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
1. Why aren't there appropriate parking spaces for bikes? I don't see you complaining about a car park taking up the space of 10 bikes. Imagine the parking chaos if those cyclists all drove cars. This is certainly not a problem in Tokyo as there are appropriate parking areas at all stations, shopping centres, etc.
2. 50% + of cyclists run red lights etc? I think it's more likely a case of confirmation bias, certainly my experience of Copenhagen/Amsterdam/Tokyo doesn't bear out your observation, although that could be my own confirmation bias. There are bad cyclists just like there are bad motorists.
3. Again 50%+ of cyclists punch pedestrians and cars without cause? I think that's just a ludicrous claim.
4. Yes I see the same type of a'hole in Tokyo all the time, I'm of the impression that it is worse here than in Europe as well, however would you prefer that these idiots be driving around in 2 tonnes of metal posing a much greater risk to other people?
5. So a truck reverses through a bike path and the cyclists are at fault? What would your response be if a truck reversed through a lane of auto traffic? Your first point about cyclists squeezing between the pavement and a turning vehicle is something that I've also seen and it is very dangerous. Much less dangerous however than motorists who change lanes without looking etc.
6. Also a problem in Tokyo, but the police will pull you over here and occasionally I see cyclists getting booked for it. It's a problem.
I once saw a motorist nudge an old lady, who was using a walking frame, because she couldn't get through a crosswalk fast enough. Doesn't mean all motorists are assholes.
1. There is, but there's two main problems people are lazy fuckers and can't be bothered walking the extra 100m from the far end of the bike rack and as long they can get in and out, who gives a fuck.
The other issue is that, there's 70000 bike thefts every year, in a city with 500k residents, some ends up in a lake, parted out, exported and the rest end up at the train station, so the city walks around marking bicycles weekly to see if they get used and then remove them after x amount of time.
2. Pending on time of day etc. I would say yes definitely, some are worse than others, as I said previously cyclists aren't required to learn the traffic laws and therefor act according to that they were told as kids, that they are the softer road user and therefor it's always the drivers fault.
A good example is, if you are stopped at a red-light as the 10th car from the light, if you go ahead on green and hit a cyclists, who enters on red, it's your fault and some of them take advantage of it.
3. That one may be a bit over, but I have been hit by cyclists crossing the street at a zebra crossing, as they didn't feel like stopping (like the laws says), it's not uncommon for cyclists to bang on the roof of cars if they are angry with the cars actions.
4. I would prefer they learned the traffic laws and stopped acting like idiots and putting others life/well being in danger, there's a couple area where the idiots drive cars instead/aswell, lets call moving around there interesting.
5. The truck has to block oncoming traffic so he can start reserving past a row of parked cars, cross the bike path and sidewalk and then enter the delivery area, until he's out of traffic both lanes of traffic are closed and everyone stops, except the cyclists, even when the truck is fully covering the bike path and sidewalk. (it's required by law to indicate when changing lanes, so it's not really a mayor issue any longer).
6. It happens here as well, but very very rarely, as they don't have resources.
No not at all, but the police has a larger focus on cars and giving out fines for auto offenses, than they do on cyclists, so car drivers are more careful, also it's easier to identify a motorist as they have license plate, bikes don't.
I have a feeling we have had this discussion before.Edited by Find Finn - 10/9/12 at 3:00am