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Really quite interested in these Russells, is Roger still around?

 

I'm not aware that many of the Northants makers are using a Norwegian welt other than C&J beyond these Alfred Sargent.

 

Also, has anyone any other comment on the 3050 last?

Many thanks

 

 

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Originally Posted by Roger la Rock View Post
 

7wk Vs 3050fx Last Comparison

 

 

Hampstead on 7wk last in black calf.

 

Russell on 3050fx last in walnut grain.

 

7wk last (Hampstead black) compared to 3050fx (Russell walnut), both UK size 7.

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Originally Posted by Fred G. Unn View Post

PSA: 25% off everything at AFPOS with code LOYALTY25. For Sargents this includes free shipping and lasted trees! Just ordered the AS Moore in black for a total of £245.62 shipped with trees!!!

I'm digging the shoe pictured here icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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@NORE, you going to buy a pair?
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PSA: 25% off everything at AFPOS with code LOYALTY25. For Sargents this includes free shipping and lasted trees! Just ordered the AS Moore in black for a total of £245.62 shipped with trees!!!
Thanks for sharing this. I've been eyeing the AS Moore in pinner suede for like the longest time and now I finally got it!!!
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Alfred Sargent Cooper from AFPOS







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 Really quite interested in these Russells, is Roger still around?

 


Alfred Sargent Russell in burnished mahogany calf.

 

 

Based on my wide feet I would recommend half a size up from the 7wk. Even then there is a little less room in the toe.

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Hey there Roger, kind of you to reply. Thanks for the post.

 

While I admire your Russells, I suspect then that the 3050 last won't work for me; as it is I find the 7WK last to be an incredibly poor fit - I followed the general recommendation to size down, in my case going a ½ size down from 'standard' - and it is loose in the heel yet far too tight in the toe box. I have lamented elsewhere about my foot shape so I won't repeat, but 'less toe room' gives me the fear.

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It seems to me that AS is not the best choice if you need a relatively wide toe box. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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The 77 of the Dumfries and Appleby is wider than average; not sure if they class it class FX but the deeper toe box height and vamp with less outflare than the more tapered lasts gives it considerable volume. Still, they are country boots/shoes. I found the 89, of the Culford for instance, was reasonably roomy too although still not a wide fit.

 

To be honest, although us Brits typically I would say have a wider foot than Americans, I don't really find that many English shoes offer that roomy a toe box fit - wider widths just seem to offer greater width at the ball yet still taper in to the tip or nose of the last. The Sanders 4831 is maybe an exception, that is pretty comfortable to be fair.

 

I've given up on English RTW shoes. Besides, my personal feeling is that the price is heading too far north for something essentially factory made with a goodyear welt.

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AS Moore cheery & pinner suede from AFPOS and Herring Shackletons (by AS) from Herring shoes!






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Special orders?
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Thread Starter 
How do Herring's 1966 last compare to the 724? I find the 724 to be more angular since it feels like it has a higher heel (I honestly haven't measured it but it just feels like it when I walk on them); I have no experience with the 1966.
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Originally Posted by MGD83 View Post

Special orders?

Nope - All RTW
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Originally Posted by DpprDr View Post

How do Herring's 1966 last compare to the 724? I find the 724 to be more angular since it feels like it has a higher heel (I honestly haven't measured it but it just feels like it when I walk on them); I have no experience with the 1966.

Heel height is the same.
724 last is definitely more angular. It is also slightly wider (but slightly shallower) in the toe box, compared to the 1966 last.

I personally like 1966 last better since it looks sleeker (and the lines smoother) in my opinion. For me, fit is almost the same. I do not notice any difference
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Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info. The last shape looks very similar so I wonder if the 1966 was based on the 724. Congrats on your stuff!
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AS Moore cheery & pinner suede from AFPOS and Herring Shackletons (by AS) from Herring shoes!







Ohhhh...beautiful shoes and beautiful model...

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