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post #586 of 1099
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Originally Posted by Yowzer View Post

Cherry Moore in action, after 3 polishing sessions using Saphir Mahogany cream. Intention was to maintain the original reddish colour.

3 polishing session: Turning a bit more darker red, siding towards brown



First wear (from AFPOS thread): No cream yet, just a clear wax (pics aren't good, but it's more red originally)



Unfortunately, couldn't get the lighting consistent. So it's hard to tell. Leather is starting to stretch with wear, getting more flexible, heel slip barely noticeable. On hindsight, I'm starting to think a bit of heel movement is also beneficial.

Good to hear that, and nice polishing job
post #587 of 1099
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AS do offer a full refurbishment for £90 plus shipping for a new Exclusive sole and heel. This is definitely the best treat you can give your loved AS shoes, as they put them back on the original last and they get soled as a brand new pair would through the factory.

They would inspect the shoes first to make sure no damage had been done internally by another repairer first before commencing.

We offer this service via AS as well, and we can get flush toe plates fitted at the same time.

Can't beat the price of the refurbishment for oak bark soles! Do you know if the job that is performed is only done on the soles or do they treat the uppers (condition, dye, etc.) like other brands that refurbish?
post #588 of 1099

Couldn't get a spit shine on the toe yet. Probably needs a coloured wax instead. Currently it's cream, then clear wax for the extra shine. 

post #589 of 1099
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Couldn't get a spit shine on the toe yet. Probably needs a coloured wax instead. Currently it's cream, then clear wax for the extra shine. 

Definitely try paste/wax because it will lead to a higher gloss compared to cream. Neutral paste/was will can help with the shine but it also can take shades of color from the finish too.
post #590 of 1099

Very good sir! But paste? Is that something different? I'm only familiar with creams and wax. Was trying to experiment and see whether a clear wax will eventually turn into a high gloss surface. Also a bit illogical to order from AFPOS again just for the wax alone from across the world. 

post #591 of 1099
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Originally Posted by Yowzer View Post

Cherry Moore in action, after 3 polishing sessions using Saphir Mahogany cream. Intention was to maintain the original reddish colour.

 

3 polishing session: Turning a bit more darker red, siding towards brown

 

First wear (from AFPOS thread): No cream yet, just a clear wax (pics aren't good, but it's more red originally)

 

Unfortunately, couldn't get the lighting consistent. So it's hard to tell. Leather is starting to stretch with wear, getting more flexible, heel slip barely noticeable. On hindsight, I'm starting to think a bit of heel movement is also beneficial.

 

Lovely job and good looking shoes.  

post #592 of 1099
Thread Starter 
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Very good sir! But paste? Is that something different? I'm only familiar with creams and wax. Was trying to experiment and see whether a clear wax will eventually turn into a high gloss surface. Also a bit illogical to order from AFPOS again just for the wax alone from across the world. 
I use the terms paste and wax interchangeably. From my experience, neutral gives a nice shine but if you really want a high gloss, you might need paste/wax with color.
post #593 of 1099

Hi,

 

do you guys think that these marks on brand new AS Moore are normal or could be expected?

 

 

 

 

To me it looks as it would have been tried to cover some quality issues in  the first place.

post #594 of 1099

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Good to hear that, and nice polishing job

 

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Lovely job and good looking shoes.  

Thanks guys... Can't go wrong with moore.... and moore....

 

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Hi,

 

do you guys think that these marks on brand new AS Moore are normal or could be expected?

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To me it looks as it would have been tried to cover some quality issues in  the first place.

 

 

 

 

 

Hmm, it looks similar to what someone mentioned a few pages back (post #500). AFPOS reported back on that, see below. Perhaps an application of renovateur or similar would help. Could very well be related to the leather being dry.

 

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Post #500 from some pages back (Click to show)

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Originally Posted by Afinepairofshoes View Post


Just picking up on this fine cracking on the toe of the AS Moore in Cherry. We have had this pair returned and have rectified this easily with a small application of Saphir Renovateur rubbed in with soft cloth and they are now perfect.




 

 

 

post #595 of 1099
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Hi,

do you guys think that these marks on brand new AS Moore are normal or could be expected?








To me it looks as it would have been tried to cover some quality issues in  the first place.

Hi Amontilado - AS (along with the other premium makers in England) use the best crust leather for their Exclusive lines that need to be antiqued with polish to add the depth of colour of the finish that you see. This is burnished into the leather. With any polish, there can be fine cracks in the top layer of polish, but this can easily be smoothed using Saphir Renovator and a clean cloth.

Here is a picture of before and after antiquing of the same Cherry leather used on your shoes:

AppleMark

I hope this helps.
post #596 of 1099

By antiquating, you mean at the factory? I didn't realise the Cherry was antiquated to begin with! It looked like a very uniform reddish brown colour from the get-go.

post #597 of 1099
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Originally Posted by Afinepairofshoes View Post


Hi Amontilado - AS (along with the other premium makers in England) use the best crust leather for their Exclusive lines that need to be antiqued with polish to add the depth of colour of the finish that you see. This is burnished into the leather. With any polish, there can be fine cracks in the top layer of polish, but this can easily be smoothed using Saphir Renovator and a clean cloth.

Here is a picture of before and after antiquing of the same Cherry leather used on your shoes:


I hope this helps.

 

Thanks. It still is very disturbing, as only THIS one shoe has these kind of marks and a deviating leather color. The other one looks perfectly good. 

 

Also my other pair doesn't have any of these issues.

 

It really doesn't look as a thing that usually occurs on high quality shoes.

post #598 of 1099
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Originally Posted by Afinepairofshoes View Post

Hi Amontilado - AS (along with the other premium makers in England) use the best crust leather for their Exclusive lines that need to be antiqued with polish to add the depth of colour of the finish that you see. This is burnished into the leather. With any polish, there can be fine cracks in the top layer of polish, but this can easily be smoothed using Saphir Renovator and a clean cloth.


Here is a picture of before and after antiquing of the same Cherry leather used on your shoes:



I hope this helps.

Thanks. It still is very disturbing, as only THIS one shoe has these kind of marks and a deviating leather color. The other one looks perfectly good. 

Also my other pair doesn't have any of these issues.

It really doesn't look as a thing that usually occurs on high quality shoes.

As Yowzer and AFPOS pointed out, and you can refer to before and after photoes form AFPOS, those are perfectly fine, just some dry polish.

and think about it, when you actually wear your shoes, it's going to crease right in the vamp, there goes your perfectly good other shoe as well.
post #599 of 1099

 

I came across the Alfred Sargent boot on jcrew and it looks great.  I called them and asked what last it is on and they told me 7WK.  I also emailed them and they told me the 3050 last.  On the Alfred sargent website I looked at the profile picture of the 3050 last and it looks huge.  I have the Cambridge on the 87 last and it fits really well so I am worried that the 3050 last would be too loose.  Does anyone have any experience with this last?  Is it possible that the jcrew boot is on the 7WK?  I am starting to develop an appreciation for Alfred Sargent and would like to build up a collection because they are great quality for a reasonable price.  Any help would be great.

post #600 of 1099
on the 7WK, it is recommended to size down by half.
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