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post #1561 of 1903
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Originally Posted by mljs54 View Post

Thanks, I really appreciate your help,

One final question -- how is the quality of the AS JCrew shoes compared to the Exclusive line?
AS from jcrew are not bad at all they are mostly on 87 last & very stylish which is a personal thing. If you are comparing AS jcrew to exclusive line they are below that not comparable to exclusive line. Currently what jcrew is asking for AS I would buy exclusive line & get a free shoe tree. But Jcrew AS are not bad at all on sale. That is just my input but end of a day what you like & value get that. Hope it helps biggrin.gif
post #1562 of 1903

I have decided to order Herring Holmes II. 

post #1563 of 1903
Cool those are nice
post #1564 of 1903
post #1565 of 1903
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Originally Posted by Axieldor View Post

Anybody have experience with the AS at Bloomingdale? How do they compare to the Exclusive line? Any idea what last this is? Thanks!

http://www1.bloomingdales.com/shop/product/alfred-sargent-derby-cap-toe-oxfords?ID=1472209&CategoryID=3864&linkModule=1#fn=spp%3D6%26ppp%3D180%26sp%3D1%26rid%3D%26spc%3D6%26cm_kws%3Dalfred sargent %26pn%3D1

I was looking at these earlier (they have a cool cherry semi brogue and a pebbled captoe blucher that I like). They are a step lower than the exclusive line, probably closer to AS made for J Crew and Herring which means open channel soles which are not tapered in the waist. 

 

The uppers are probably the same quality and goodyear welting is still goodyear welting. At around $400 these are a decent buy considering that's the retail cost for Allen Edmonds these days. AS for Herring is about $370 before shipping so you can compare to that. The Charles II is basically the Armfield while the shoes you linked to look like they might be on a different last. 

post #1566 of 1903

Does any anyone own AS Holborn? I am just wondering how the waxed leather is aging?

post #1567 of 1903
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Originally Posted by Dembowski View Post

Does any anyone own AS Holborn? I am just wondering how the waxed leather is aging?


If it's the Holburn boot Dembowski I must say 3 yrs on of hearty use and I'm really impressed with them. Lovely leather.
post #1568 of 1903

Yanko oxford (Cambridge) and AS Ramsey (Oak) - color comparison

 

 

 

Yanko are nor as good as AS, but it is very good alternative, if you are looking for something cheaper, but still on good level

post #1569 of 1903
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Originally Posted by Northampton21 View Post




If it's the Holburn boot Dembowski I must say 3 yrs on of hearty use and I'm really impressed with them. Lovely leather.

Why I am not surprised NH21, that you have them already!? It is exactly Holborn I was asking for. Really happy with your opinion, as I have ordered them this week too. Thank you for picture and replay!

post #1570 of 1903
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Originally Posted by Dembowski View Post

Why I am not surprised NH21, that you have them already!? It is exactly Holborn I was asking for. Really happy with your opinion, as I have ordered them this week too. Thank you for picture and replay!

Lol.I must say Dembowski that these have served so well. Very nice leather indeed and 89 last is elegant yet comfortable too. I thought the Holburn was discontinued...where are getting them from if you don't mind me asking.

I know about Yanko but price vs quality I feel AS has amazing value to offer. wink.gif
post #1571 of 1903
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Originally Posted by Dembowski View Post

I have decided to order Herring Holmes II. 
Congratulations 👍🎩
post #1572 of 1903


NH21 - thank you for additional info. I was trying to buy them for a very long time. I finally got them on eBay. Brand new never worn, simply wrong sizing, and they were waiting for me in the box -   just for 195 GBP.

 

Regarding Yanko and AS - of course there is no comparison. AS has much better leather, craftsmanship and lasts. However, what I Iike in Yanko, is the 915 last and possibility to select leather, suede and combine colours you like, and still around 200 GBP.

post #1573 of 1903

@Northampton21 Do you've any experience with the 87 last? I love the fit of the 89, but have heard that the 87 last is narrower?

 

Many thanks in advance.

post #1574 of 1903

Yes I do as I have AS Cambridge and Hannover, and I assume that Holburn is on the same last - such info is on the AS website. I never heard about 89 last.

So last 87 is excellent - I really love it. Pretty slick, what makes boot a boot, but still looks elegant.

 

I am just now checking, what last is on Holborn. My shoes will be delivered within 2 weeks, so then I will be able to make comparison, if there is any difference

 

 

M

post #1575 of 1903
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Originally Posted by EUtroll View Post

@Northampton21
Do you've any experience with the 87 last? I love the fit of the 89, but have heard that the 87 last is narrower?

Many thanks in advance.

Hi there,
I made a typo earlier. The Holburn, Cambridge and Hannover are all on 87 last which I think has a great balance in terms of looks and comfort. If you are a regular width you should have no probs with the 87 as fits true to size.

I do havery a pair on 89 last but E fitting. It's a 3 eyelet apron derby grain shoe. In my opinion it seems to have a slightly pointier toe compared to 87...but this could seem so due to the E fitting hence slightly narrower width compared to 87F. I do find 87 to be generous without having too much room or looking bulky.

Hope this helps...
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