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post #226 of 300
11/13/12 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by jrd617 View Post

LOL,Syracuse film student friend.
There is no symbolism behind these ill fitting suits.
The simplest answer is just the wardrobe bitch trying to make Bond's suits "trendy and slim" by fitting him into the Tom Ford Falconer cut.


Ya you're right clothes in movies have nothing to do with being a costume and not just for advertising. Retard.
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post #227 of 300
11/13/12 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by JBMarce21 View Post

Ya you're right clothes in movies have nothing to do with being a costume and not just for advertising. Retard.

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"I thought Tom Ford would either kick me out or smile, one or the other. But he was fantastic, completely ready to do the best with what we gave him, and he did it wonderfully. The tailors were amazing. Everything about the fitting was serious. You know how Italians can be. Like, for half an hour you'll discuss whether the length of a trouser should be a half-centimeter longer or shorter. I wanted Bond to look perfect all the time, so I chose Tom Ford shirts that had a tab under the collar—great for the action scenes—and light blue and sky blue colors, because they go wonderfully with Daniel's eyes. I also wanted a tie you could forget; I didn't want Bond to be the guy with a tie that has a little square on it. Those are too loud, and you'll just remember the wrong design. The trousers were flat-front and belt-less—[belts] are so nineties."

http://www.complex.com/style/2012/11/skyfall-costume-designer-jany-temime-talks-about-daniel-craigs-style-choices-and-more

What about the symbolism of the suits looking unkempt/tight and his body failing him? It seems that the costume person wanted the exact opposite, for Bonds suits to look "perfect." (According to current skinny suit trends, not classical aesthetics)
Edited by jrd617 - 11/13/12 at 3:03pm
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post #228 of 300
11/13/12 at 2:54pm

Bad, as they all are in bond movies.

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Originally Posted by Firefox View Post

I'm surprised that no one has said anything about Javier Bardem's cream jacket/brown vest/brown pants combination yet (good, bad, or indifferent). I have to admit that it looked pretty strange to me, but I suppose that's the goal with Bond villian wardrobe choices.

 

 

At least he looked fairly relaxed in it, unlike Bond...

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post #229 of 300
11/13/12 at 3:04pm
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Originally Posted by Hampton View Post

Bad, as they all are in bond movies.

The irony being, of course, that in real life it would be the government employee (i.e. Bond) who would wear the terrible clothing, and the evil billionaire (i.e. Bond villian) who would have really nice clothes. smile.gif

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post #230 of 300
11/13/12 at 3:06pm

I wonder if it's a TF blazer he is wearing...

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post #231 of 300
11/13/12 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

Appreciate the discussion here.
I've personally been a single vent fan so it was nice to see them in the movie as an alternative to double vents (yes, yes, even if the suits were ridiculously tight to begin with). Thought the color palates were great too in general.
I think, for the marketing force that Bond movies have become, all these little things are intended more for the slob to look at and go, "oh - there's a point up from my overly baggy suit I wear to the office each day." I think that'll be highlighted by the tight "Bond" look for the next few years. The extreme nature of his clothing makes it all the more noticeable to the menswear(nohashtag) layman than the perfectly fitted stuff from CR, for example.
Don't get me wrong. The scene where DC looks at himself in the Vesper-tux in CR was absolutely fantastic. But seeing Craig in these things now, as #menswear is picking up steam in the USA (at least), it's probably meant at least to some degree to sell things. Sell the tight suit. Sell the tab collars. Sell the cropped peacoats, etc. And in that regard, I think the movie will do spectacularly.
I know one of the first things I looked up the next day was the Billy Reid cropped peacoat. Also had to do a double take at the Barbour Beacon (sans hood, surely).

This is an excellent point. A certain amount of it has to be exaggerated--otherwise many people won't pick up on it. And yes, it will certainly drive sales to some extent.

And yes, the CR tux scene is awesome. There are dinner jackets, and there are dinner jackets. Something Mr. Craig should have taken to heart...

Again though--I can get over the excessively tight and short fits. It's a fashion. I think it's a bad idea that will make the movie look dated in just a couple of years, but I get it. I still can't get over the poor *fit*. You can have a super slim suit that fits; these are both super slim and don't fit, which just makes it border on comical.
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post #232 of 300
11/14/12 at 8:42am

Here's something that people reading this thread may find interesting. It's a collection of the various products (including clothing) that appear in the film. Not surprisingly, almost everything is something that can be purchased (up to and including the bulldog from M's desk):

 

http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/tags/products-skyfall

 

Interestingly, nothing is said about the Tom Ford clothing. I suspect this is because it is custom-made and cannot be purchased as-is. Also interesting is the Billy Reid peacoat. According to the site, the production purchased 15 of the coats; 5 in "large" and 10 in "medium". The larges were used in scenes with movement and stuntwork, the mediums were used in close-up and stationary shots. And Daniel Crag apparently ordered one for himself (in large of course). 

 

As many have pointed out here, I suspect that the same downsizing was used for his suits; I believe that's actually quite common in big-budget film productions.

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post #233 of 300
11/14/12 at 8:45am
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Originally Posted by Firefox View Post

Here's something that people reading this thread may find interesting. It's a collection of the various products (including clothing) that appear in the film. Not surprisingly, almost everything is something that can be purchased (up to and including the bulldog from M's desk):

http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/tags/products-skyfall

Interestingly, nothing is said about the Tom Ford clothing. I suspect this is because they are custom-made and cannot be purchased as-is.

Actually, the last part isn't true. The suits and ties from the movie are available. The swatches for the suits are also available if you want to do mtm.

One note: my understanding is that the suits from the movie are 3-roll-2, while the retail versions are 2 buttons.
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post #234 of 300
11/14/12 at 8:49am
Here it is, in case anybody's interested: (credit to ajb007)




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post #235 of 300
11/14/12 at 8:52am
It's out of order; the sharkskin is the last swatch.
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post #236 of 300
11/14/12 at 10:21am

I am surprised none of you disliked the cuff pants. I felt they looked awkward and would have preferred they be uncuffed.

 

As was stated in this well-worded post:http://www.styleforum.net/t/260637/cuffed-flat-front-trousers#post_4743885

 

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A lot of people think that cuffs make a suit more formal which is not true, it is just the opposite. Cuffed pants came about to keep the bottom of pants out of the mud and served a utility purpose. They were also very popular with double breasted suits because of the balance issue. A double breasted suit has more material, and more things going on visually that a single breasted suit so the cuffs on the pants gave the suit balance. Unless there is a counter balance to the cuffs, the cuffs will put visual weight at the bottom of the suit (at your feet) and would make anyone look shorter (regardless of the cuff size). Pleated pants help a little with the balance, so you can go either way with them.

 

 

 

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post #237 of 300
11/14/12 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by bboyneko View Post

I am surprised none of you disliked the cuff pants. I felt they looked awkward and would have preferred they be uncuffed.

As was stated in this well-worded post:http://www.styleforum.net/t/260637/cuffed-flat-front-trousers#post_4743885

Cuffs are totally a personal preference. I for one prefer them, as do many here. They do look somewhat silly with a suit that slim, but that's the least of his problems.
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post #238 of 300
11/14/12 at 10:44am
I'm really digging the peacoat. Apparently the one used in the Bond film was last year's model in a navy (which is available online only, although backordered till mid-Jan).

Stores have the same jacket this year but in black for $100 more since it is current season. And it has brass buttons (rather than horn).

They're prob both easily versatile - but black or navy??
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post #239 of 300
11/14/12 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by teddieriley View Post

I'm really digging the peacoat. Apparently the one used in the Bond film was last year's model in a navy (which is available online only, although backordered till mid-Jan).
Stores have the same jacket this year but in black for $100 more since it is current season.
They're prob both easily versatile - but black or navy??

I personally would prefer navy, it's more interesting than black IMO.
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post #240 of 300
11/14/12 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post


Cuffs are totally a personal preference. I for one prefer them, as do many here. They do look somewhat silly with a suit that slim, but that's the least of his problems.


I don't oppose cuffed pants per se, I think they look great in more casual outfits. However with slim, simple single breasted suits such as the ones worn by Bond in this film, the cuffed pants look bad, in my opinion. Clashes with the simplicity of the jacket. Hence my surprise that no one in 16 pages voiced a dislike for them in this context. Everyone was too distracted by the overly tight david beckham fit of the jacket.

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