James Bond Trailer SKYFALL- Tom Ford wardrobe - Page 14

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Originally Posted by jeff13007 


Actually thats completely possible especially since he is a weight lifter. Look at his size in Casino Royale as compared to quantum of Solace, in the latter he is still muscular but you can see that he has lost weight. Plus as anyone who works out regularly knows if you stop lifting for a while or go on a cutting phase you can lose 10lbs of muscle. I myself have gotten measured up for a shirt then gone to the first fitting with10-15 additional pounds (lucky Mina at NSM didn't attach the sleeves of my shirt yet or there would have been an issue lol). It wasn't that i stopped working out it was just that it was the time of year when i switch from high repetition cutting exercises to heavy weight bulking ones. Even when i enlisted for National Service in Singapore i managed to lose muscle mass just purely because of the type of activities we were doing i.e we didn't need to bench press 270 pounds but being able to do 100 push ups helps, but it came back very fast when i started lifting weights again. I do agree though that for bond the clothing is crap but i just saw the movie and besides the collar gap in SOME scenes the fit is not that terrible (short pants/short jacket put aside).

If you reread my post you will see I concede gaining 10lbs of mass over a short time is possible. We're talking 90 days, as mentioned previously in a post above. I don't see any radical changes in Bond's physique over the last year to the tune of 10lbs lean mass. That's a large amount of muscle. I also agree with your point in regard to muscle memory. 

My point is that I don't believe any of the things mentioned above and within this thread with regard to muscle mass gain and loss are to blame, I think Ford, simply, created some bad ill fitting suits this time out.  Most likely he was not as hands on this time and the outcome is what you see on screen.

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Originally Posted by jeff13007 


Don't get me wrong as I'm a huge Tom Ford fan and lately have been purchasing almost exclusively (suits, sport coats, shirts, ties, polos, sweaters, jeans, shoes, wallets, ties, belts etc) from his brand but i never thought he was right to dress bond. Even in QoS the suits looked very "hard" for the lack of a better word compared to the flowing smoothness again for the lack of a better word of Brioni from CR. I just seems like the Brioni suits moved better.
Edit: you do have a point though as I'm sure the costume designer had a lot of input into this besides the input from Tom Ford

Really? I loved the stuff in QoS, I thought the "hard look" you mentioned reflected the updated personality of a more tortured soul. To each there own of course.

I just can't fathom Tom Ford (a Saville row alumni) and top notch menswear designer allowing for collar gaps and ill fitting suits. I can recall his disdain for AS when they refused to create lapels to his specifications, which I believe was a catalyst for the launch of his base line... Ford was sick and tired of not being able to get anyone to make what he was looking for.

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Originally Posted by jeff13007 


I don't think he would qualify as a "Saville row alumni" as he never worked there he just had suits made at the different houses there. Yes i do agree that the collar gap is unacceptable especially for Bond, add on top of that the fact that when you buy from their madison ave store they usually without promoting from you point out things like a collar gap or a roll, and then attempt to rectify it. But yeah i wasn't too impressed with the QoS stuff but thats possibly because i was stacking it against what Brioni did in CR which i thought was great. I mean tell me that scene when he looks at himself in the mirror wearing the tux vesper gave him wasn't awesome?

I could have worded it better. "As a Saville row customer" would have been the better choice of words.

Oh it was awesome no doubt. I think this was Fords chance to surpass the bar Brioni set, to bad he squandered it.

Think about it. Badass menswer brand - check.  Great quality - check. Took it to a whole new level with Bond - Fail.

What could have been 

Just saw the Bond Heineken ad. Noticeable collar gap. The wouyst.

So just saw Skyfall last night, as I wanted to reserve judgement until that time, and despite it being the best Bond I have seen, the suiting truly was awful.

I happen to believe the Tom Ford Suits in Q of S were perfect- impeccable fit, no pulling but very trim, and not overly done up TF stuff (lapels and tie blades just < 4") they were, however, excellent for the brand, and showed a classic look with a modern tailoring. To make a comparison, tux to tux, I must say that in Q of S when he surveys the crowd just before and during the opera scene, trumps the Brioni mirror scene. Not by much, and it should also be kept in mind that there was a few years in between, and styles had changed.

Skyfall's suits, however, looked like shit the moment he started to move. if he was just standing there, it was OK, but literally upon raising his arm it went to hell.  The single vent was not helping... the dual vent is really what you need for an athletic individual and therefore fit. The single vent dinner jacket made me gag.

Now, if creative license--as well as character development--is brought to the table, it occurs to me that the smaller lapels/tie width, coupled with the poorer fit, may have something to do with the fact that Bond is older, and his body failing him, which was a theme throughout. I spoke with a friend of mine from  who studied Television & Film at Syracuse's Newhouse school, and they agreed with that as sound logic.

Now, does that mean the suits didn't suck in comparison to the last 2 Bond wardrobes? Absolutely not, as they clearly did. BUT, this is a movie after all, and these things are obviously important. (look at Bardem's over-patterned Prada shirt  and ivory jacket when he gets all touchy with Craig in his introductory scene, obviously helps the character). So, point being, while the suits clearly falter in comparison, they did serve a purpose.

Btw, Bardem's black leather shearling trench in the ending scenes? Bad motherfucker outerwear.