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post #31 of 81
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Originally Posted by SirGrotius View Post

I'd hold off on the working button holes man. The examples I've seen on this forum, although probably biased, when it's been altered is usually a real horror show. RLBL is a nice, slim, fully canvassed suit so you should enjoy it as is. Getting better buttons is not a problem though.

Guess who installs working buttonholes on RLBL for $120 all-in ($15 per button-hole)? The Ralph Lauren Mansion in-house tailor. I can't imagine them screwing their own stuff up, particularly when they do that ALL day for their Purple Label suits.

post #32 of 81
Great. Be sure to show us your pictures when you get your suit back post-alterations!
post #33 of 81
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I suggest using a tailor who does bespoke than an alterations one.

 

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Great. Be sure to show us your pictures when you get your suit back post-alterations!

 

I thought you are vouching for a bespoke tailor.  Guess the in-house guys @ RL gets your support too.  rotflmao.gif

 

Again, it doesn't take that much to make functional button hole.

post #34 of 81
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I thought you are vouching for a bespoke tailor.  Guess the in-house guys @ RL gets your support too.  rotflmao.gif

 

Again, it doesn't take that much to make functional button hole.

I trust the in-house RL tailor who literally makes functional buttonholes for Purple Label suits all day long for 2 reasons:

1) Asked the Purple Label guys...RLBL is STILL made by Caruso, just in a "separate" area of the building...I trust the tailor who exclusively works on Caruso/RL suits.

2) A bit more buyer "weight" if the buttonholes come back like shit because I'm buying the suit from the same store that's doing the alterations -- I can be like, holy shit guys...how am I supposed to wear this...in a worst case scenario.

post #35 of 81
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I thought you are vouching for a bespoke tailor.  Guess the in-house guys @ RL gets your support too.  rotflmao.gif

Again, it doesn't take that much to make functional button hole.

I still do suggest a bespoke tailor for button holes or other jobs with more room for error. It's always safer. However, with RL, you get complimentary tailoring. If they mess up, they'll reimburse you. This is the safest bet, especially considering that they do button-holes for purple label on a daily basis.
Again, you lack logic. Think before you write anything.
post #36 of 81
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I still do suggest a bespoke tailor for button holes or other jobs with more room for error. It's always safer. However, with RL, you get complimentary tailoring. If they mess up, they'll reimburse you. This is the safest bet, especially considering that they do button-holes for purple label on a daily basis.
Again, you lack logic. Think before you write anything.

Guys - chill out. 

 

Although the tailoring is not free on sale items, I STILL trust a full-time in-house Purple Label functional button-hole maker over anyone else for something that is RL (black label).

 

It just...makes...sense. If they screw up, they can always give me a discount on the entire suit or something...if a bespoke tailor screws up, there's not much they can do for you.

 

But in the end, both are HIGHLY likely NOT to screw up. They do it ALL day long...so you probably can't go wrong either way -- either high-end bespoke tailor (like Bhambi's in NYC) or in-house designer label tailor.

post #37 of 81
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Guys - chill out. 

 

Although the tailoring is not free on sale items, I STILL trust a full-time in-house Purple Label functional button-hole maker over anyone else for something that is RL (black label).

 

It just...makes...sense. If they screw up, they can always give me a discount on the entire suit or something...if a bespoke tailor screws up, there's not much they can do for you.

 

But in the end, both are HIGHLY likely NOT to screw up. They do it ALL day long...so you probably can't go wrong either way -- either high-end bespoke tailor (like Bhambi's in NYC) or in-house designer label tailor.

In my opinion, it's not needed. I love Ralph, I wear all his lines - blue, black and purple. Take the money you would have spent on the alteration and buy a nice black label square or tie on sale. Maybe a shirt!

 

Do as you wish, just saying - enjoy your new suit!!!!!

post #38 of 81
Money better spent elsewhere, IMO. No need to convince us, it's your suit...
post #39 of 81
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Originally Posted by yywwyy View Post

I still do suggest a bespoke tailor for button holes or other jobs with more room for error......Again, you lack logic. Think before you write anything.

You tend to make sense in this thread, just not in this post.
post #40 of 81
^^This .
post #41 of 81
I'm speaking from my experience. In general, alterations tailors mess up a lot more than do bespoke tailors when given more difficult, laborious jobs. After a few mess-ups I never went back to alterations tailors, and have been happy since. For things like handsewn button-holes, I really suggest that one uses a bespoke tailor. I won't say that there are no good alterations tailors who could do this, but I just found that in general (as expected), bespoke tailors are more skilled and take more pride in their work & reputation. Many of my friends and some members on this forum agree to this from experience. That's my conclusion for the whole bespoke tailor argument, of which I'm not sure why it is controversial to some at all.

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I was saying that the guy lacks logic because he's calling me out for not fully sticking with the "bespoke tailor" argument. However, it should be clear to anyone that if available, using the in-house RL tailor is the best bet in this case. It doesn't mean I don't stick by my original stance that bespoke tailor is more likely to get the job done w/o problems.
Edited by yywwyy - 5/31/12 at 10:30pm
post #42 of 81
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FYI -- just spoke with Bhambi's to check. They do all custom suits on-site and make functional button-holes all the time -- $12 per button-hole.

post #43 of 81
http://www.yelp.com/biz/oak-street-tailors-chicago

I confess that I have availed myself of working buttonholes on OTR coats, and it's exactly for the reason Foof mentioned - I just like the artisanal details.

Used Nick @ Oak Street Tailors on Oak St. in Chicago.

Cost is $150 all in, work was absolutely flawless. And I really men flawless. The buttonholes were outrageously neat.

I highly recommend for someone who has the $ and simply thinks this detail is fun, which it is.
post #44 of 81
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. . . I STILL trust a full-time in-house Purple Label functional button-hole maker over anyone else for something that is RL (black label).

. . . They do it ALL day long...so you probably can't go wrong either way -- either high-end bespoke tailor (like Bhambi's in NYC) or in-house designer label tailor.

Yes, this is true. They may even have an in-house Purple Label Master Tailor to oversee the job.
post #45 of 81
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Yes, this is true. They may even have an in-house Purple Label Master Tailor to oversee the job.

 

I don't even know what that is...but I would assume that if they did, it would be in their global flagship store...the RL Mansion on Madison Ave. in NYC... biggrin.gif

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