Your 100% right on this on Suyi. Not only is facing material on the AV products sometimes quite different to the mainline, but prototyping time after time to make sure things fit and function perfectly is most definitely considered R&D.
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An extra side pocket, and buttoned cuff (composite jacket) versus 90 gram lighter weight (actuator jacket). That's whopping 25% lighter. While I am a fan of 5 lbs waxed cotton jacket over featherweights like these, I can't wrap around my head how actuator is much cheaper with seemingly better specs to me.
Also there are slight differences in appearance and design. Veilance to begin with was never made to be solely functional so you have to remember aesthetics will always be heavily added into the price point. Many Veilance products are already priced much higher than their mainline counterparts with very minor differences in performance but a much heavier focus on appearance.
^ I have the Actuator and use it during spring/summer, very lightweight and waterproof also have a Veilance hard shell that is just to warm (does not breathe) to wear in warmer climates.
FWIW...The Actuator is the only Veilance piece I own that has wear issues, slight fraying/pilling on the elastic on one cuff, this would not stop me from buying the jacket or one like it again.
Probably appealling more to us Brits and Scandinavian/European cousins but I recently got to see the upcoming Haglöfs 19Fourteen collection.
Some really nice pieces, the standout for me being the Lima Q parka. Seriously tough 300D faced 3L pro-shell. I forgot to ask the weight but it was suprisingly light and soft for such a hardwearing material, my guess would be around 900g. Subdued logos, slim fit, excellent articulation, impeccably finished and fully spec'd with loads of pockets, wired/foam old school snorkel hood and vented with pit zips so should be a lot more wearable than some of the other fashion orientated gore parkas. I'm told retail will be around £600.
If it had been Neo-Shell instead of Gore it may well have been my dream parka!
No photos but found this press shot on google. The one I handled was black.
Edited by Grove - 4/22/14 at 3:33am
I think it will be stocked by Haglöfs main dealers alongside their mainline.
Just to add. The 19Fourteen collection is a nod to their past and 100 year history so many of the pieces have a retro look but with tech fabrics and manufacturing. There was also really nice take on a fishtail and a lovely pertex down jacket with 2 field jacket type chest pockets. All really well tailored and slim fitting.
Edited by Grove - 4/22/14 at 4:28am