yeah I agree with you on that but different people have expressed differing opinions.
Edited by hendrix - 9/24/12 at 5:22pm
They also use Epic amphibious cotton in some of their jackets like the EJ-23 from last season.
I find gore tex can be very crisp bag sounding. However I would say that namanica and veilance seem to be making inroads into this and the last gore tex veilance jacket (the sinter) I purchased was far superior with regards to this problem.
I think it depends on the amount of DWR coating they put on it. Obviously for an outdoor sports application this needs to be quite a lot to prevent it from rubbing off too easily but this isn't so much of a problem in the urban environment so the amount of DWR can be reduced making it less crinkly and crisp bag sounding.
Of course as with any material personal preference and taste will play a large role in if you like it or not.
That looks like one big pocket, as opposed to the MMM jacket's dual pockets per zipper.
I can't help but think that a lot of this stuff is overpriced, though. I have technical stuff that's more in the $200-$300 range for jackets and it's fantastic. You can say that about most things on this forum, and I think the design aspect is worth the money, or if you just want it. But if you're looking for performance more than anything, unless you're a hardcore athlete, just go to REI instead.
Cool yeah I was forgetting Reigning Champ are part of the larger CYC group. I've only recently been getting into technical stuff - interesting to know the practical reasons for the pocket placement!
@KingJulien -I think the wholesale price of materials like gore-tex is pretty high, or alternatively the R&D costs for brands like Ten C that have designed their own materials. I don't see tech stuff as more overpriced than anything else on styleforum really, although maybe its muddied a bit because some of what you're paying for is high performance rather than simply good design. tbh its not really any different from say watches - some guys like the fact their Omega can survive in space or 50m underwater even if they'll never use that shit.
Thanks for the info! I'm definitely going to look at what they have. I'm trying to replace my do everything North Face fleece that I've had for 5 years - been good for hiking and such, but it's time to switch it out.