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Originally Posted by wj4 View Post

I used to have a friend like you. We were close friends in high school. I went to college, and he chose to 'take a year off', then the year became years and he never got around to attending college. We still hung out as I went for my B.S. But after I got a professional job, and started to buy 'nicer things', he became jealous, for a lack of better word. To make it short, I stopped being his friend. I don't need dead weight to hold me back from my potential.
PS, you don't need to be in debt for $50k for a degree. There are a bunch of options for a BA/BS and plenty of good state university programs.
There is no country quite like the U.S. where a felon can find a way to become affluent, or where someone without formal education can find the will to become successful. In many other countries, everyone is expected to obtain at least a bachelor's and usually are stuck at dead end jobs.
I have a friend who dropped out of junior college, and eventually started his own production firm. He works with Warner Bros, and others. He has a nice 4 bedroom house, a couple of cars worth over $500k in total. I would say he's doing alright without a degree. But there aren't many of those around. Go get your degree as a cushion so you can live a comfy live if your plan should fall apart/short.

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Sounds like the OP isn't happy with himself.
When I was in grad school my college buddies were getting great jobs, buying houses, taking exotic vacations, and making babies. I was a poor grad student trying to make ends meet while maintaining my academic endeavors. They'd often cast aspersions on my standard of living, and honestly, I didn't care. It was one of the best periods of my life because I was doing exactly what I wanted to do. I was poor, overworked, and worn out, but as happy as a lark - completely content with what I was doing.

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It also sounds like you're surrounded by a lot of negative people. College is VERY affordable if you go to a public school, instate and live at home (not to mention scholarships you get if you have very good grades). Yes, you'll likely graduate with loans but it will be offset by your increased earning potential (just don't go to school to study roman literature) If you're hard working and focused you can even pay off a lot of school by working during the school year and/or summers. Since you're over 21 the living in school for the atmosphere is not as important so living at home or off campus are definitely cheaper options.
Also look into community colleges. They're cheaper than state schools and some or many of them are just as good.
College isn't the only thing too. If you like computer science (then it's important) but you can look into obtaining computer certifications to pursue some gigs that don't necessarily require college degrees. There are also vocational schools for other interests.
These are all options, but you have to figure out what you want or your interests before you can decide on which option to pursue.
Also, why is your family so adamant that you not go to school? Maybe they say so because they see/feel you have no direction and think it's not worth the expense for someone with no drive? If not, why else? Some people just don't think beyond their immediate sorroundings so you have to be able to filter out advice that you feel isn't helpful to you. Be willing and prepared to pursue your goals with a lot of support.

College is very affordable, I have friends that go to A&M and UH and their tuition for the year is not even half of what I have paid for at the small private institution I attend. Granted I am now considering transferring because I am unhappy there. Finish school because it is at least your safety net and you can network while you are there, meet a few girls, and hopefully enjoy your time there.
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Get off your high horse for a second there, pal. Congrats on reaching the 6 figure range at an early age, but no need to sound cocky because there will always be people who are younger and more successful than you.

lol, WTF man were are suppose to give this guy some words of encouragement not send him to his doc to get zoloft. Congrats on the 6 figure salary, I would have chosen a different car but to each his own lol. (I am currently in the market for a hybrid/fuel efficient car I have thrown too much money away on gas over the past three years)
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I see Occupy Wall Street in your future.

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Story time!!

I have a friend, much older than me, who went to one of the best k-12 private schools in Houston, went to A&M and then transferred to UH. He never finished college because it bored him and he was spending time learning about things that he actually cared about, cs. He would pay his tuition but not go to class, girl friend at the time and now his wife, was not pleased with his choices. He is a smart guy and landed a job in the tech world at around 22 making 50k, bought his first House at 24, now works for microsoft making over six figures, sends his kids to the same private k-12 he attended (25k a year per child), and has his own business. He did not use family money to get where he is today, he worked hard and applied himself. Sure he may not have a Bentley by the time he is 40 or have 2 summer homes but that is because he is happy where he is. O and he also started his own business.

Another story

UH entrepreneurship professor, attended UH and was suspended not once but TWICE. He finally woke up and said FUCK THE WORLD, applied himself and finished his last two years with a 4.0. Applied to top universities for grad school and he got in everywhere he applied, yes the ivy league schools as well. He is not a professor and has his own business. He is happy with his life and is happy to share his story.

Another story,

Friend blew off two years of undergrad and had around a 1.0 grad point average (grade point ratio) and then also said FUCK THE WORLD, finished his last three years of undergrad with almost a 4.0 and scored above a 35 on his MCAT and is now in med school.

Another story,

Friend blew off his two years of undergrad, woke up and finished strong. Studied for the LSAT and did well. Applied to law school and was admitted to a few lower leve schools. Went to the lower level law school, pissed on his entire class and then transferred to UH Law, which from my understanding is pretty good, and now he has received numerous job offerings. Currently doing an internship and graduates next year if I am not mistaken.

the point that I am trying to get across is that you can alway, almost always, achieve what you want in life. It takes hard work and dedication. There is no short cut, no easy way out, you have to work hard to be successful. There are plenty of immigrant that come to the states and start their own business and then make money. Hell there are people that go to med school when they are 35. The only person holding you back is yourself, apply yourself and stay motivated.

FUCK ANOTHER STORY,

This guy was an accountant, he was tired of the daily grind and now he aww fuck....I cant remember the entire story lol but I hope you get the point.
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Originally Posted by wj4 View Post

My point: Don't come in with a cocky attitude when the OP is asking for opinions in determining the best direction for his life.

his point: dont be a dick BRAH!
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Originally Posted by Arthur PE View Post


what do you do to make 6 figures?
education/job
and six figures is a big range $100,000 to $999,999

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I wonder how many members use family money....
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post #34 of 38
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Originally Posted by Joffrey View Post

It's upsetting you because it looks like they're doing bigger and better things than you - moving, buying a car. I assume you didn't go to college? Why not? You may be living pretty well off eBay sales but how much longer can you seriously do it? How long do you intend to live at home? What's your plan? Maybe your friends making their own moves while you seemingly aren't is nagging at you. You may want to seriously consider your goals in the short to medium term (1-3 years) and how you intend to achieve them. I figure if you can establish and pursue a plan you will feel better about your status vis a vis your friends.

basically - this. some of us like to fool themselves and think that they are "hipper" or that they have chosen an alternative life with more freedom or what ever, and that willl give them a better life. here's the deal - eventually you will want to move out of your parents house and have a family, have a life. you aren't moving in that direction now. and so you are going to be jelous of your friends. good luck
post #35 of 38
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post

basically - this. some of us like to fool themselves and think that they are "hipper" or that they have chosen an alternative life with more freedom or what ever, and that willl give them a better life. here's the deal - eventually you will want to move out of your parents house and have a family, have a life. you aren't moving in that direction now. and so you are going to be jelous of your friends. good luck
Truth. At such a young age, if you're not on a path to financial and career advancement then you're just kidding yourself about your current station in life. In such case, feeling inadequate, i.e., jealous, is justified.
post #36 of 38
To use a tired old platitude, the important thing in life is balance.

I've known people who live at both extreme -- either career oriented to the max with their lives planned out at every step or total freewheeling bums who teach english in Japan for five years while "making music" on the side. Both of them wake up eventually and realize they are miserable, the latter usually around 30 and the former around the age of 40.

There is a path in life that most people must follow to do the things most of us want to do, such as have a house, marry, and have children. You can kid yourself and say that you're special and you don't need to follow that path, but you probably do. At the same time, there is flexibility in how you follow that path and how closely you stick to it through your life.
post #37 of 38
You're unhappy because seeing your friends (who presumably decided to pursue tertiary education) open doors as a result of that education has made you question your own choices in life.

I personally do not know many people who could actually afford a $50K down payment on a property by the age of 21. Of those that could, we got a lot of help from our parents in setting up trading accounts/businesses young.

You should not really feel inadequate. First of all, just because your friend's succeeded as a result of further education does not necessarily mean that you would have the same success pursuing the same route. From the (admittedly shallow) glimpses I can yield from your posts, you are completely unsuited to any sort of corporate role.

I say this as someone who made the choice to pursue the big bucks over my teenage dream to be an artist, some people have the skillset to do something but just not the personality for it. I liked human interaction and the adrenaline rush of deadlines too much for the lonely, unstructured life of an artist.
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Hey man - I'm 21 too, but I have to agree with what Liquidus says too. I like to joke around and say that I'm just another pawn in corporate America, but it's really what you make of your situation. Don't stay too focused on the pay and follow what you like and everything else should fall into place. When you do start looking for work, you should be reviewing the actual job as much as the hiring manager is looking through you. Make sure your potential coworkers will work well with you.
I think many of my friends from back home, before I started school feel the same way about me. People describe me as overly ambitious (which I think can be really damn bad at times) but it's placed me in a spot where I started losing "friends" because of their jealousy.
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“It is in the character of very few men to honor without envy a friend who has prospered.”
― Aeschylus
Best of luck man!

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I'm somewhat similar, worked internships every summer during college and didn't hang out with friends as much as I could have (3x a week vs. say 5x or so). I would say if anything I am kind of disappointed in my friends lack of ambition. And now this summer most of my friends are finally working and don't want to go out on weeknights. And this is after so many years of complaining that I needed to go out during weeknights. Kinda hard to when you wake up at 6-7AM daily. I have a month and half off before work this summer and I still have stuff early on some weekends and some friends may say oh I'm waking up early too so don't be a bitch and let's drink, but they don't need to be fully awake whereas I do.
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