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post #16 of 50
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post


There might be a few people out there that disagree with you on this biggrin.gif

 

Yes hence the all intents and purposes caveat - certainly when Cashmere was discovered/originated nations like Pakistan didn't exist.

post #17 of 50
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Originally Posted by Tropicalist View Post

- pailsey pattern
-seersucker
-madras cotton
-cummerbund
-pyjamas
-gingham checks (?)
- Nehru jacket
-tussah silk
-khaki/chino fabric
-sola hat
-cashmere fabric
- mohair/angora weaving (?)
Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't some of these things, like khaki colored fabric, generated by the British while they ruled India? I thought the backstory there was the British soldiers were originally wearing white, which quickly got dusty/dirty, so they made lemonade by making the fabric the color of the dust.
post #18 of 50
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Originally Posted by comrade View Post

Add: The Pith Helmet ( not worn much today)
As opposed to the Nehru jacket?
post #19 of 50
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

kashmir was the trade capital of cashmere but the wools are imported across the region from mongolia to tibet.


They bought the wool from Mongolia, wove it and turned it into garments in Kashmir and then sold it. Are American suits made of Italian wool Italian? Do the Scots not weave Scottish cashmere?
post #20 of 50
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post #21 of 50
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

There might be a few people out there that disagree with you on this biggrin.gif

Actually Northern South-Asia
Further North would be Central Asia.
post #22 of 50
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Originally Posted by Stirling View Post

 

1) Cashmere originated in the West Himalayas - this is in india.

 

2) The word Cashmere derives from 'Kashmir' - again for all intents & purposes this is in india. 

 

3) mughals regardless of their ethnic origin, ruled india

 

Before patronising, get your facts straight.

 

1) india, tibet, east turkistan or whatever you call it.

 

2) kashmir region is in present day india, pakistan and china/afgan?  and historically its persia, afgan, mughal india or british india? 

 

3) brits ruled india as well, but we dont call indians brits.

 

historic facts do come in different flavors.

post #23 of 50
Kashmir is historically India. The name derived from the Hindu Kashyapa rulers who were there before muslims, mughals and whatever else. No Persia.

Kashmir shawls were famous before mughals became interested in them.
post #24 of 50
Nepal is still south asia - historically, what is today pakistan, india, sril lanka, bangladesh and a large part of burma were "india" - india wasn't a state, it was a geopolitical/cultural world.

its strange, I can't think of many specific ethnic influences on men's clothing, but of course western mens' dress wasn't all one culture - it is a mixture of english and italian, with large contributions from the scots, the irish, the germans, the austrians and probably others.

ties came from Croation mercenaries, if I remember correctly.
post #25 of 50
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Originally Posted by Tropicalist View Post

Well, somebody's random comment on my beautiful Sam Hober Ancient Madder paisley tie got me thinking about South Asian contribution to men's style. The more I though about it I realised that it is very substantial and poorly recognised. So here go somethings I know. Feel free to add more
- pailsey pattern
-seersucker
-madras cotton
-cummerbund
-pyjamas
-gingham checks (?)
- Nehru jacket
-tussah silk
-khaki/chino fabric
-sola hat
-cashmere fabric
- mohair/angora weaving (?)

jodhpur boots

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post #26 of 50
Thread Starter 
Amazing how a discussion on clothes can degenerate into political bickering.
post #27 of 50
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Originally Posted by Tropicalist View Post

Amazing how a discussion on clothes can degenerate into political bickering.

Apparently you've never visited an online forum before.
Any subject can degenerate into political bickering. It's what people do.
post #28 of 50
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Originally Posted by Tropicalist View Post

The Persian influence probably came by way of india. What's remarkable is I am still trying to scratch my head to come up with any ethnic influence outside of india.

Silk from China
post #29 of 50
Don't forget those slippers w/ the really pointy, curly toes
post #30 of 50
I've been to Kashmir and I can assure you - it is not Indian in the slightest.

They may lay claim to the area (well, the Indian controlled part) but the culture and people have nothing in similar with India as a whole.

I would add that it's the most beautiful part of the world I've seen smile.gif
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