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post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 

Hey guys, I've been a longtime reader but I finally felt the need to post a question. I'm in need of a tuxedo, and am running out of time to explore my options. I've pretty much got my heart set on a midnight navy shawl collar tuxedo, and after spending almost a month of looking I've learned how hard these are to come across (in the right size). I've only managed to come across a blazer and I was wondering if it was acceptable to wear a midnight navy shawl collar blazer, and black tuxedo pants together? I really appreciate your help! 

post #2 of 28
No, sorry.
post #3 of 28
Thread Starter 

Could you give an answer that's a little more in depth?

post #4 of 28
I assume you mean a midnight blue dinner jacket, not a blazer. Those are two different things and SF is unforgiving in pointing that out.

If I understand your question correctly, you want to know if it's OK to wear a midnight blue dinner jacket with black trousers. I asked the same question a while back after I found a great midnight blue shawl collar DJ in a thrift store without matching trousers. I was told it is not OK. But someone also posted a pic of Christopher Plummer doing so at the Oscars, and he looked pretty good.

So: If you have the panache of Christopher Plummer, feel free. Otherwise, use caution.
post #5 of 28
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Originally Posted by defkonz View Post

Hey guys, I've been a longtime reader but I finally felt the need to post a question. I'm in need of a tuxedo, and am running out of time to explore my options. I've pretty much got my heart set on a midnight navy shawl collar tuxedo, and after spending almost a month of looking I've learned how hard these are to come across (in the right size). I've only managed to come across a blazer and I was wondering if it was acceptable to wear a midnight navy shawl collar blazer, and black tuxedo pants together? I really appreciate your help! 

Yes. You are good to go. Have FUN!
post #6 of 28
If it's a velvet smoking jacket type dinner jacket, then I wouldn't wear anything but black formal trousers. However if it's a regular wool one then no. Incidentally, I've seen midnight dinner suits with shawl collars at H&M, not sure if they still make them.
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post

If it's a velvet smoking jacket type dinner jacket, then I wouldn't wear anything but black formal trousers. However if it's a regular wool one then no. Incidentally, I've seen midnight dinner suits with shawl collars at H&M, not sure if they still make them.

The one I have in mind is a wool one. Darn, i figured black satin/grossgrain lapels would go well enough with black pants. And I will definitely check out my local H&M asap. Thanks!

post #8 of 28
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Originally Posted by TimelesStyle View Post

If it's a velvet smoking jacket type dinner jacket, then I wouldn't wear anything but black formal trousers. However if it's a regular wool one then no. Incidentally, I've seen midnight dinner suits with shawl collars at H&M, not sure if they still make them.

I was in one recently and didn't see anything like that, they just turn over stuff very quickly and don't keep any pieces around too long.

They do have some linen suits I would be tempted by if the trousers weren't more or less leggings.
post #9 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rolex Luthor View Post

I assume you mean a midnight blue dinner jacket, not a blazer. Those are two different things and SF is unforgiving in pointing that out.
If I understand your question correctly, you want to know if it's OK to wear a midnight blue dinner jacket with black trousers. I asked the same question a while back after I found a great midnight blue shawl collar DJ in a thrift store without matching trousers. I was told it is not OK. But someone also posted a pic of Christopher Plummer doing so at the Oscars, and he looked pretty good.
So: If you have the panache of Christopher Plummer, feel free. Otherwise, use caution.

Sorry my mistake! I always figured dinner jackets were a textured material like velvet though. I really appreciate your input thanks. 

post #10 of 28
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

I was in one recently and didn't see anything like that, they just turn over stuff very quickly and don't keep any pieces around too long.
They do have some linen suits I would be tempted by if the trousers weren't more or less leggings.

That's true. And I only saw them at some of the bigger stores anyways. Might be worth a shot, especially if seeking an odd size.
post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

No, sorry.

Just to confirm: +1
post #12 of 28

I'd recommend trying to find one with peak lapels - think they look a bit more interesting, particularly with the midnight blue.

 

If this thread is still kicking around when you do find one could you please post the brand you go for? I'm looking for a similar tux but I can't find many options and money is seriously tight right now.

post #13 of 28

Black tie really isn't that hard to pull off, but there are a few basic rules to follow. Wearing a tuxedo is one of them. A tuxedo must have matching jacket and trousers. Consult http://www.blacktieguide.com/ for more information.

 

ETA: Of course there is the warm weather/tropical tuxedo variation of wearing a white jacket with black pants. However, it isn't summer yet, and the acceptable option here seems to be a white/ivory jacket with black pants. Also, I believe the jacket and pants are still supposed to match (in material, obviously dyed a different color). Can anyone confirm this?

post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

Black tie really isn't that hard to pull off, but there are a few basic rules to follow. Wearing a tuxedo is one of them. A tuxedo must have matching jacket and trousers. Consult http://www.blacktieguide.com/ for more information.

ETA: Of course there is the warm weather/tropical tuxedo variation of wearing a white jacket with black pants. However, it isn't summer yet, and the acceptable option here seems to be a white/ivory jacket with black pants. Also, I believe the jacket and pants are still supposed to match (in material, obviously dyed a different color). Can anyone confirm this?

Not sure about that, but you left out the other place in which non-matching pieces are acceptable and that is when using a velvet smoking-style jacket which could be black, dark blue, dark plum or even burgundy.
post #15 of 28
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Originally Posted by TheTukker View Post

Just to confirm: +1

I would also say no to midnight blue Dinner Jacket and black trousers, although I must say that Christopher Plummer pulled this look of quite well.
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