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post #16 of 32
I will do it since they will be responsible if something goes wrong. However, the last dozen or so suits I've bought have needed hemming, working buttonholes and minor waist alterations (if planning to wear braces).
post #17 of 32
dont always blame the tailor.. its management that controls everything.
the poor tailor is just obeying the boss, in order to keep his job.
post #18 of 32
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

I agree with Bounder if you need more than just the pants hemmed and the sleeves altered.  I used to get all my suits altered at the store (typically BB) and have recently learned how much better a good tailor can make the suit fit.  BB used to tell me it looked great and only do the alterations I asked them to do.  Contrast that with my recent experience taking a suit to a good tailor, who told me precisely what needed to be done to make the suit look good.  And she was 100% right based on the results.  Stores are trying to get you out the door with as little tailoring work as possible.  A good, independent tailor is trying to make sure the suit looks as good as possible.

It sounds like you had a bad experience with a BB store, also, you just recently have begun working with an independent tailor, are you sure the alterations you have invested in are correct? I hate to break it to you, but there are a lot of poor tailors out there, some who get much less reps than the in-store guys, and I could tell you about some real horror stories in regard to horrible fits, etc.

 

I can tell you that I've worked with all kinds here in Boston. Rizzo (many feel he is the best in MA), the people at RLP, Saks, Barneys, and even boutique store tailors (drinkwaters). I stand by what I said, if you need minor to moderate alterations, immediately writing off a house tailor might be shortsighted and ridiculous. As mentioned, most of these guys/gals are not going to be bespoke or highly skilled tailors, but if you need minor to somewhat moderate (again not major work) alterations, most high end store crews are at least capable.

post #19 of 32
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dont always blame the tailor.. its management that controls everything.
the poor tailor is just obeying the boss, in order to keep his job.

Listen to the man.

Once again, the question isn't whether an in-store tailor is competent to hem your pants. The question is how do you know the suit really fits in the first place? How do you know that's all it really needs? Because the salesman/in-store tailor told you so?

Don't kid yourself that this is only a problem for people who shop at Sears. If you haven't seen it IRL, there are any number of pictures of very wealthy people who have been allowed to leave the store without even the proper sleeve length. Why? Because they never learned any better and no one at Neiman Marcus or Saks ever bothered to teach them.

And no in-house tailor has ever talked a customer out of buying a suit because it didn't fit after the salesman had sold him on it. I correct myself. No in-house tailor has ever talked a customer out of buying a suit because it didn't fit after the salesman had sold him on it twice.

If you know hardly anything about cars and you go to buy a used car and say, "I have X dollars to spend. Please sell me a good car." you can expect to get screwed. That's why you probably want to have it examined by your mechanic before you buy. The same principle applies when buying suits. The salesman and the tailor are there to sell you a suit with as little trouble as possible and at as high a profit as possible. If you end up looking decent in it, it's a happy coincidence, not a necessity.
post #20 of 32
It boils down to educating and relying on the integrity of the store/SA. YMMV with both.
post #21 of 32
educating yourself*
post #22 of 32
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Originally Posted by Frankie22 View Post

It sounds like you had a bad experience with a BB store, also, you just recently have begun working with an independent tailor, are you sure the alterations you have invested in are correct? I hate to break it to you, but there are a lot of poor tailors out there, some who get much less reps than the in-store guys, and I could tell you about some real horror stories in regard to horrible fits,

 

puzzled.gif  Yes, I'm sure my most recent alterations are correct (or at least better than what I have received at BB and other high end stores in Chicago in the past).  I am a difficult fit, so I know first hand that stores will let you walk out with the wrong size and poor fitting suits.  I also know that, other than sleeves, hemming the pants and taking the waist of the pants in, most store tailors will only do what you ask them to do.  This is not a problem if you know precisely what needs to be done.  If, however, you are unsure on what needs to be done, you are not going to get the same result from most in-store tailors.  This is why it is the novice or inexperienced suit consumer that has the most to gain by going to an independent tailor, especially if they have fit issues with OTR.  In my own experience, the independent tailor altered my jacket in a way that no in-store tailor ever has (taking it in at the back seam) because she immediately recognized the cause of my fit issue (needing to size up for my chest and erect posture). 

post #23 of 32
Find a good tailor and use that person for all you needs. This is one big lesson I've learned in life. When I buy a suit , SC , pants etc., I go to the same tailor I always use. Put it on, stand on the box in front of the mirror and just say " what do you think Daniel and what does it need" . Now, I know I always will have collar roll, that needs work, and that you want a good tailor to fix. He also knows where I like my pants to come to , length I ilke sleeves, and fit of pants. At most the only thing you're going to get included in purchase price is hem pants and adjust sleeves, not a big cost item or much extra money spent at your regular tailor.Getting everything done in one spot and peace of mind is well worth paying this extra.
The important part is ofcourse is finding a good tailor and developing a good relationship with him.
Roger
post #24 of 32
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Originally Posted by Roger Everett View Post

Find a good tailor and use that person for all you needs. This is one big lesson I've learned in life. When I buy a suit , SC , pants etc., I go to the same tailor I always use. Put it on, stand on the box in front of the mirror and just say " what do you think Daniel and what does it need" . Now, I know I always will have collar roll, that needs work, and that you want a good tailor to fix. He also knows where I like my pants to come to , length I ilke sleeves, and fit of pants. At most the only thing you're going to get included in purchase price is hem pants and adjust sleeves, not a big cost item or much extra money spent at your regular tailor.Getting everything done in one spot and peace of mind is well worth paying this extra.
The important part is ofcourse is finding a good tailor and developing a good relationship with him.
Roger

 

Beginner here.  Would a great tailor consider him/herself above such minor work (and just minor work) like hemming or is it all appreciated?
 

post #25 of 32
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Beginner here.  Would a great tailor consider him/herself above such minor work (and just minor work) like hemming or is it all appreciated?

 


An alterations tailor should and will do all alterations jobs that come in the door.

Some bespoke/custom tailors will not do alterations except on clothes they make, but this is not a hard and fast rule.
post #26 of 32

With slight modifications, department store alteration services will do.

post #27 of 32
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Originally Posted by sding View Post

Beginner here.  Would a great tailor consider him/herself above such minor work (and just minor work) like hemming or is it all appreciated?

Most tailors, even those who do bespoke work, are very happy to do alterations, too. Bespoke-level tailors who can live well on nothing but bespoke work are few and far between, especially in the States. And a lot of good tailors are happy to do alterations work because they know it leads to more bespoke work. It's relatively unlikely that someone you've never seen before is going to walk in and drop 5k on a bespoke suit. A lot of their bespoke clients start of as alterations clients. As they develop a relationship and learn more about fit, etc., they come to see the benefits of bespoke tailoring.

So by all means, don't feel shy about asking. People with a sincere interest in tailored clothing are a valuable resource. Even the very finest bespoke tailors will be happy to recommend a colleague who does do alterations if they don't do them themselves.
post #28 of 32
Simple things in the store if for free. Else I go to the tailor I know.
post #29 of 32

the store has some decent alteration services for simple jobs.

post #30 of 32
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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post

I have to pretty much disagree with all the advice in this thread. Do not ever use a store's tailoring service. This is especially true if you are not absolutely sure what you are doing.
The problem is that the store -- and the store's tailor -- are interested in selling you the suit. Not only are they interested in selling you the suit, they are interested in selling it with the least amount of trouble and expense for them. So you are never going to get candid advice from an in-store tailor. Their job is not to make you look good. Their job is to help sell you the suit.
If they are sending it out to a regular tailor, the situation is even worse. Then you're getting advice from the salesman who is also doing the measuring. Never having seen you, the tailor will then make mechanical alterations based on whatever semi-random measurements/pinnings the salesman did.
The best way to do this is to go buy a suit -- making sure you can return it if it is unaltered -- and then take it to a good tailor, preferably one who makes suits as well as alters them. He will have no particular interest in you keeping that suit and will give you unbiased advice about whether the suit actually fits, what things can be done to alter it and how much those things will cost. Not only will you get good advice, you will learn alot about proper fit, which is something that the people in the store have little interest in teaching you.

Actually, this is false. A QUALITY store has a long-term interest in the client, and will also have a good tailor IN HOUSE. If a suit needs too many alterations, then it is the wrong model/size for you.
Every day people bring me garments to my store (I do outside alterations also) that are the wrong size and/or model for them, yet they want me to work miracles and make it fit them like a custom garment, mostly because they bought it at "a good deal".
My advice is to go to stop chasing deals and find a good independent store that has knowledgeable salespeople who will put you in a garment that is best for your body type, has a good tailor on staff and the rest will take care of itself. In the long run, you will have a good wardrobe, good fit and actually save money.
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