or Connect
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Classic Menswear › Foo-approved
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Foo-approved - Page 4

post #46 of 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrd617 View Post

FCorb:
9thjxk.jpg


First suit posted in thread > Above...


First suit has more "pop".....not that the above is bad at all......(And this is just related to the color scheme...)
post #47 of 278
Thread Starter 
Exactly my thought. Timotune's outfit is far more dynamic.
post #48 of 278
First suit says "flair."
Above suit says "business."
post #49 of 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Yes, really.
They are less formal, but the texture and color are also rougher and earthier, respectively, than the rest of the outfit. You can choose to view things strictly in terms of formality if you wish, but I like to concern myself with aesthetics as well.

Well when I said "not really" I was referring to the aesthetics. The aesthetic value is not increased by rougher texture or covering the texture spectrum, not in this case anyways. Just like country does not necessarily have a greater easthetic value than city, or mixing both no greater etc.........
post #50 of 278

Did anyone else notice that you can see the outline of where the pocket flaps were pressed over the jacket? That's really bothersome to me and the flaps should be left out if you can see the outline.

post #51 of 278

Vox > Timotune. Not sure how this is even a contest - I'm no fan of the bright blue tie.

post #52 of 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

. In truth, it is exceptionally well-balanced. The different shades of blue come together very nicely, as they are broadly distributed across both the saturation and brightness ranges. Perhaps a good practice for most WAYWRN posters would be to view their photos in black and white. You'd be able to tell immediately if your outfit has enough tonal separation.
.

Awful. This is the sort of thing you see on middle aged Italian dudes featured in Sartorialist.

The monocolor draws attention to the clothes rather then the man. This is the use of color you see in sports uniforms or industrial uniforms. Because the purpose of uniforms is diminish the individual. It’s the opposite of well-dressed.

Its color matching from a child’s perspective. It signals an ignorance of the color palate. This is a young guy with a blue suit who couldn’t sort out a complementary color so surrendered to the one certainty in his limited aesthetic insight– all items the same color.
post #53 of 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

No, I understood. My point is that when all components are identical in a given respect, such as brightness, it doesn't lead to visual balance. In fact, it tends to lead to unpleasant clashing. The eye would neither be able to find respite from any of the outfit's extremes, nor would it want to move around the outfit. When there is a range of colors, tones, patterns, scales, textures, saturations, etc., the average of each tends to reach a happy medium while retaining interest through variance.

Well, you would have to have the right combination, but there are other parts involved. The "cut" and shaping and where the colors be either contain it or it doesn't (some of this can be adjusted at the fitting). Another dimension is the personality that is wearing this combination, which means it is not for everybody, or the person would have to figure out how to make it work. Eye color, hair color, complexion, shoes and even socks. A good painter takes into consideration the whole canvas. The Japanese figure out how to leave some of it blank. The Mona Lisa is about her and the rest of the canvas could be just about anything else. In fact I never cared about the background he put in the Mona Lisa. The ensemble is not complete until it all fits the person and nothing leading out nor any part left out. What you have here is a combination, range of colors, tones, patterns, scales, textures, saturations, etc., that you have worked on, but there are other combination to learn. Iconic paintings, then realism, impressionist, cubist, and so on and more to come. Clothing is the same, which is one of the reasons tailoring is an art. You may not be interested in all of these styles, but you can learn from all of them. A hat is interesting because we take them off and they have to work on or off without disrupting the whole picture. I could go on and on about balance of light dark, bright dull, space between and lines and so on. Some art classes push us into subjects in ways we might not think of or want to think of but if we want the grade we continue.
post #54 of 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

I have a well-earned reputation for being a picky grouch around here. But every now and then, I do see something I like a lot. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. In this thread, I post the proof.
Here's one for starters:
If you are a rule-of-thumb kind of guy, you may think there is too much blue in this outfit. In truth, it is exceptionally well-balanced. The different shades of blue come together very nicely, as they are broadly distributed across both the saturation and brightness ranges. Perhaps a good practice for most WAYWRN posters would be to view their photos in black and white. You'd be able to tell immediately if your outfit has enough tonal separation.
Also, notice the textural range. There are rough, matte, and shiny surfaces. The shoes were an exceptionally smart pick. He could have gone with well-polished black, brown, or burgundy calf-skin shoes, which would have been perfectly fine. But brown suede really raises this outfit to another level. It takes the edge off the slickness while filling out the rough end of the texture spectrum. The sleek, more urban design of the shoes keeps them in line.
There is lots of blue, yes. That's what makes the outfit's balance so much more impressive and interesting.
Nits? Well, the sleeve fit may be effed, but I can't tell because of the way he's holding his arms. I don't like the slanted besom pockets, either. They are more of a distraction than anything else. Also, the gorge is too high, but short of cartoonish.

Foo, what do you think about this exact outfit but with a pale pink shirt? I feel like the pink would frame his face.  Would you be willing to photoshop just for kicks?

post #55 of 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Without it, he'd look like the anonymous GQ-blog Italian businessman, whose outfit is painfully flat and one-dimensional.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Every goddamned Italian businessman dresses exactly like the above. The tie and jacket are too close. And an all-solid outfit is almost always a fail.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coburn View Post

The monocolor draws attention to the clothes rather then the man. This is the use of color you see in sports uniforms or industrial uniforms. Because the purpose of uniforms is diminish the individual. It’s the opposite of well-dressed.

I don't understand this active hostility towards monochrome. Sure, you can think it's boring, but to think it's patently 'bad' looking is a little extreme. I'm with jrd617, subdued plain blues gives a discreet, professional appearance; and I kind of like looking anonymous and humble (you stand out enough in the modern era wearing a suit). Moreover, dark monochrome focuses the attention on the fit and cut of the suit, instead of having it hidden behind silky ties and pinstripes; frankly, fiddling around with colors, patterns, checks and pocketsquares all seems a bit feminine to me. Note, I'm not advocating an all-black suit and white shirt with aviators like some bad 90's movie. I think the Italian businessmen have it right:

pitti-uomo-recap-bold-solids-569717.png
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrd617 View Post

I like the more subdued blues in the second picture. Maybe I'm boring. biggrin.gif

We'll be boring together.
post #56 of 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

That will depend on the moderators.

and the posters i imagine as well.
post #57 of 278
...
Edited by Allez Allez - 6/22/12 at 5:44am
post #58 of 278
Post another picture besides Tims that you like.
post #59 of 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Allez View Post

Foo - If I recall correctly (and I was drunk), you criticized Timotune's suit for having a too high gorge. What about Vox's suit above?

I generally like a lower gorge than what's been shown in both fits, but FWIW, I think straighter cut lapels pair better with high gorges than bellied ones. Vox's lapel is comparatively much straighter than Timotune's.

512

365
Edited by dieworkwear - 5/10/12 at 4:52pm
post #60 of 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

Post another picture besides Tims that you like.


+1

 

I thought this was going to be a thread of Foo posting "approved" photos... I have since gotten more confused from reading it

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Classic Menswear
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Classic Menswear › Foo-approved