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SpooPoker said:

Post another picture besides Tims that you like.

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lawlz that he likes more than one in a day. patience young padawan.



MZhammer said:

I have since gotten more confused from reading it

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successful foo thread is successful.



Coburn said:

This is a young guy with a blue suit who couldn’t sort out a complementary color so surrendered to the one certainty in his limited aesthetic insight– all items the same color.

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How much of your assessment is prejudiced against his age? If all you see is "the same color," I have to conclude you're either color blind or not giving a good faith critique.

greger said:

Well, you would have to have the right combination, but there are other parts involved . . . Some art classes push us into subjects in ways we might not think of or want to think of but if we want the grade we continue.

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I don't mean to diminish your contribution, but I was honestly lost. All I was saying is that visual balance in an outfit does not equate with wearing components that are all the same on a particular metric (such as brightness, in your example). In actuality, balance is achieved when there is sufficient variance along multiple metrics--pattern, scale, color, saturation, texture, etc.

Frankie22 said:

Foo, what do you think about this exact outfit but with a pale pink shirt? I feel like the pink would frame his face.  Would you be willing to photoshop just for kicks?

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I wouldn't like it as much. It is a unique success precisely because it so expertly mixes different saturations and shades of blue. The wearer was either stupid lucky, or possesses a stronger sense of these things than most.

Svenn said:

I'm with jrd617, subdued plain blues gives a discreet, professional appearance; and I kind of like looking anonymous and humble (you stand out enough in the modern era wearing a suit).

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Since when is "professional" an aesthetic quality? I never said the outfit in question was ideal for the boardroom.

Allez Allez said:

Foo - If I recall correctly (and I was drunk), you criticized Timotune's suit for having a too high gorge. What about Vox's suit above?

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It's also a bit high for my taste.

dieworkwear said:

I generally like a lower gorge than what's been shown in both fits, but FWIW, I think straighter cut lapels pair better with high gorges than bellied ones. Vox's lapel is comparatively much straighter than Timotune's.

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That is an interesting thought. I have not fully considered the relationship between lapel curvature and gorge height. That said, I am relatively agnostic on lapel curvature itself. I only care that it transitions elegantly into the roll. This is easier to do with anti-belly than belly--or so I'd think.

in stitches said:

lawlz that he likes more than one in a day. patience young padawan.

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Don't hold your breath.

Foo, what is your general philosophy on colors and or color blocking?

You have one camp, (I believe you to be in this camp) that focuses on the actual garments, and how they contrast one another. Then, you have another camp, which also focuses on harmony within an outfit, but puts much more stock in the clothing framing the face/person, based on color and intensity of said color(s) against their complexion. I've read a few books on this (the best: Color For Men by C Johnson), and her views some to directly contridict camp #1's beliefs.

Me, I fall somewhere in between; I want to wear colors that work for me, but I also want my outfit to draw attention.



mafoofan said:

That is an interesting thought. I have not fully considered the relationship between lapel curvature and gorge height. That said, I am relatively agnostic on lapel curvature itself. I only care that it transitions elegantly into the roll. This is easier to do with anti-belly than belly--or so I'd think.

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Part of the logic for me is that full bellied lapels look a bit dowdy and old fashioned (I don't mean this in a bad way, as I don't mind dowdy and old fashioned things). As such, they seem to pair better with lower gorges. Higher gorges, on the other hand, seem to me a bit more modern and aggressively rakish, so I think they pair better with a straight cut lapel. Of course, all lapels have some belly, so this is comparatively speaking.

Timotune looks odd because he has a relatively more bellied lapel with a very high gorge. I also just don't really care for his lapels in general.

As for which one transitions to a roll better, I could go either way.



mafoofan said:

Don't hold your breath.

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i wont. nor will i be posting any fits.



Frankie22 said:

Foo, what is your general philosophy on colors and or color blocking?

You have one camp, (I believe you to be in this camp) that focuses on the actual garments, and how they contrast one another. Then, you have another camp, which also focuses on harmony within an outfit, but puts much more stock in the clothing framing the face/person, based on color and intensity of said color(s) against their complexion. I've read a few books on this (the best: Color For Men by C Johnson), and her views some to directly contridict camp #1's beliefs. 

Me, I fall somewhere in between; I want to wear colors that work for me, but I also want my outfit to draw attention.

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I've never put any thought into how skin tone should affect the colors one wears. When I see white skin, brown skin, tan skin, etc., my mind tends to just see skin, and moves on. I never connect it to a person's clothing as another color to match.



mafoofan said:

I've never put any thought into how skin tone should affect the colors one wears. When I see white skin, brown skin, tan skin, etc., my mind tends to just see skin, and moves on. I never connect it to a person's clothing as another color to match.

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I personally match my leathers to the skin tone of my darkest child.



mafoofan said:

I've never put any thought into how skin tone should affect the colors one wears. When I see white skin, brown skin, tan skin, etc., my mind tends to just see skin, and moves on. I never connect it to a person's clothing as another color to match.

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Then you're missing an important axiom in your sartorial geometry. Have you ever seen a pale asian guy wearing a bright yellow Polo? Or a strawberry blond haired, pale skinned guy wearing black during the day? Those choices are objectively wrong, relatively speaking. No matter how perfect those same items of clothing might look on someone else (with the right coloring).

ykurtz said:

mafoofan said:

I've never put any thought into how skin tone should affect the colors one wears. When I see white skin, brown skin, tan skin, etc., my mind tends to just see skin, and moves on. I never connect it to a person's clothing as another color to match.

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Then you're missing an important axiom in your sartorial geometry. Have you ever seen a pale asian guy wearing a bright yellow Polo? Or a strawberry blond haired, pale skinned guy wearing black during the day? Those choices are objectively wrong, relatively speaking. No matter how perfect those same items of clothing might look on someone else (with the right coloring).

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+1

Yes, one intensity can be to much if it is bright, and could look rather pimpy if done wrong. Another way of thinking about intesities is like the sunshine hitting the clothes and where it is not then shade. Anyway, the imagination for selecting clothes to wear for a day can cover a lot of ground.

mafoofan said:

I've never put any thought into how skin tone should affect the colors one wears. When I see white skin, brown skin, tan skin, etc., my mind tends to just see skin, and moves on. I never connect it to a person's clothing as another color to match.

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Man Of Lint said:

+1

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Foo, you have pretty much mastered the understanding of how a suit should fit, your knowledge of textile contrasting and matching is very good, why not take it to the next level and delve a bit deeper into colors and complexion? Give the book I mentioned by C Johnson a read, it's very interesting and you might find it useful. It's a game changer in regard to understanding what colors look best on you.

Btw, you are a contrast complication.

only 5 pages?

Timotune, have you seen this thread yet?