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post #31 of 172
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Originally Posted by Imhoff View Post

For Paypal, I believe it is 4%.
So is it against the rules to state "Price includes shipping in the CONUS. Please add 4% to all purchase prices."?

Yes.
post #32 of 172
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Yes.

Thank you for your response. Much appreciated. biggrin.gif
post #33 of 172
LA Guy: Please update the official list of rules. There is nothing in it now that explicitly mentions a seller cannot request an additional percentage to cover PayPal seller fees. It only mentions personal payments:
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7. Please do not list any payment terms that are against the terms of service for any other website, or do anything that would make us have to phone our lawyer (because we will take down the listing, and you may be banned or fined.) For example, please do not ask for “personal payments,” from Paypal.

If you don't sync the contents of your first post in this thread with the official list of rules, I suspect you will see a lot of people unknowingly violating this new explicit rule.
Edited by jrd617 - 5/7/12 at 11:10pm
post #34 of 172
Also, I had no idea that "surcharging" was against the "terms of use" for PayPal until tonight. I stopped taking personal payments after you requested that we not to do it. To get around eating the fees, I just asked that buyers cover them. It's really not ideal for a hobbyist forum seller to be eating a $20 fee (4-5%) on each $400 thing he sells via PayPal. Especially if he's selling something at cost that he doesn't want anymore/doesn't fit perfectly. I noticed that this has become standard practice in many seller threads.

Is there any way I can get around this? I think I will just begin charging more for "shipping and handling" for all forms of payment on big ticket items. I can handle paying a buck or two on small ticket items, but $20 on a bigger item is really freaking annoying. We're not all retailers "keystoning" (100% markup), so it's hard to offset the fee.

The handling phrasing seems perfectly within the PayPal terms of service, since I only accept PayPal:
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No Surcharges. You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as a payment method. You may charge a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services, as long as the handling fee is not higher than the handling fee you charge for non-PayPal transactions.

Edited by jrd617 - 5/7/12 at 11:26pm
post #35 of 172

Like davesmith wrote, but no one answered him.

 

Is it okay to write ''sold'' and remove the price (in the information-field)? And put the picture in the spoiler when the item is sold? Or shall no information be edited at all?

 

Edit: Is it okay to write payment via paypal? 


Edited by Sir F - 5/8/12 at 3:59am
post #36 of 172
i don't know of any seller on styleforum B&S who advertise that he accepts other forms of payment such as cash in person or a check/money order in the mail ...
so if you're only accepting paypal and you know that paypal charges you a fee for the transaction, then just PRICE YOUR ITEM ACCORDINGLY
facepalm.gif

and the sellers aren't even doing the math correctly when they say add x% for paypal
post #37 of 172
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Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox View Post

i don't know of any seller on styleforum B&S who advertise that he accepts other forms of payment such as cash in person or a check/money order in the mail ...
so if you're only accepting paypal and you know that paypal charges you a fee for the transaction, then just PRICE YOUR ITEM ACCORDINGLY
facepalm.gif
and the sellers aren't even doing the math correctly when they say add x% for paypal

There's a psychology behind pricing that you're missing.

Say a person buys something from a retailer for $499 in final sale. When it arrives, he decides he doesn't want it.

He puts it up on the B&S for "$499 shipped + 4% handling," and declines all personal payment requests.

That looks "better" than "$520" in the mind of the buyer.

If a hobbyist seller doesn't mention that he doesn't want to eat the PayPal costs in a "Goods" transaction, the buyer is just going to attempt to "talk him down" below $499, and he will be losing money.
Edited by jrd617 - 5/8/12 at 4:56am
post #38 of 172
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Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox View Post

i don't know of any seller on styleforum B&S who advertise that he accepts other forms of payment such as cash in person or a check/money order in the mail ...
so if you're only accepting paypal and you know that paypal charges you a fee for the transaction, then just PRICE YOUR ITEM ACCORDINGLY
facepalm.gif
and the sellers aren't even doing the math correctly when they say add x% for paypal

Makes sense to me. My issue is that there are some sellers who assume that having the buyer add the fee to the total price paid is just standard practice, so they aren't very clear that they expect it. Others do not have this expectation. I think there should be some kind of rule that the seller just has to state the total amount due up front, which the buyer can then accept or not. Maybe this rule already exists, and I just haven't known about it.
post #39 of 172

^ Agree that the seller should put % paypal fee in the price already (or dont put anything, be a nice guy and sell cheap, you bastards!)


Edited by Sir F - 5/8/12 at 3:57am
post #40 of 172

Quick question:

 

I've been known to put imgur-hosted images into the body of the body and then remove them later because imgur has a limit on the number of free images, and I want to free up space on the account.

 

But the photos are also uploaded using SF's hosting system (from which you can't inline quote in a large format, which is why I also host them externally).

 

As copies of the image are still available from the SF host, it's OK to remove the imgur-hosted photos, right?

post #41 of 172
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

OJFC its like 2010 again.

Someone just bumped your 2010 Tweed contest too. lol8[1].gif
post #42 of 172
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Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post

Quick question:
I've been known to put imgur-hosted images into the body of the body...

I'd just like to thank you for doing that because browsing the images hosted on SF is like eating ice-cream using a straw... I get frustrated and my face eventually goes red.
post #43 of 172
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Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox View Post

i don't know of any seller on styleforum B&S who advertise that he accepts other forms of payment such as cash in person or a check/money order in the mail ...

I take cash and money orders. Though 75% of what I sell is $6 shoelaces and $9 cufflinks. I wouldn't take cash or a money order on anything costing more than $50.

I have also sent cash, money order, and even western union to fellow Styleforumers who don't use paypal.
post #44 of 172

Screw PayPal, just use Dwolla. $0.25 flat fee per transaction.

post #45 of 172
Have B&S rules been formulated yet on selling swag obtained at the StyFo 10th?

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I'm thinking here, in particular, of all those napkins or red-marked cut label brand tags autographed by celebrity StyleForvm posters. These items might be at the height of their value at the moment.
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