Although I don't enjoy the sniping, I am constantly amazed by the intensity of emotion over bits of leather for the feet. I mean, I care about shoes, and all. But I doubt I will ever get to the point where my biggest problem was that some anonymous guy on the internet disagreed with me about something. If I do get there, I will be so happy I might stop smoking crack.
With hesitation, I ask those who apparently enjoy the sniping whether they find that shouting at strangers online really brings about a desired effect? If the desired effect is converting a discussion to a fight, then it probably works. If the goal is to enhance the discussion, not so much.
I am sure all are perfect gentlemen in person. Can we keep the passion, but apply conventional standards of manners?
You asked...Look through this thread. Really read it (I suspect that's probably not going to happen but it could be a clue if your interest is sincere.) Most of my posts are in response to questions directed specifically at me regarding issues that I know something about by virtue of years of hard work and dedication.
Many of the responses come from people who know nothing about the subject other than what they wish or imagine is true.
I post about subjects I know something about. For all practical purposes, here in this thread, on this forum, that's shoemaking. Others, in this thread in particular, only post about what they know--themselves, IOW. And nothing else. And certainly nothing germane to the subject / conversation.
Why is there sniping and ill-will here? It comes from a sense of entitlement. Probably even a sense of being ignored. "Ooh! Ooh! Listen to me!" "Call on me!" "You didn't ask my opinion!"
I don't believe in entitlement...even if others give lip-service to it in order to appear nicey-nicey. I believe in earning your way. That's the way I was raised. You work, you reap.
I could happily confine all my posts to threads that deal with shoemaking issues...because I know something about that subject. I'm not talking about opinion, I'm talking about hard, bought and paid for, knowledge.
If others could confine their posts to subjects they know...repeat know...I suspect it would make for a near perfect forum. Except then we'd have threads entitled something like "What's the Hap with RogerP."
And no, I'm not a gentleman...I've said this before. I'm of that certain age, where I don't care what people think of me. And I am impatient with trolls, free-riders and others too arrogant and ignorant to do the work to even become conversant with these subjects. For all of that, some won't like me, others may.
But I urge you...and anyone else who cares to think about it...to look at intent. For instance, what is my intent in answering questions from almost anyone, even people (like you) who I suspect are not entirely kindly disposed towards me? And what is the intent of the plethora of posts from the usual suspects that offer no substance, nothing concrete or objective to these conversations? Think about intent--whether a unique professional observation offered in the spirit of help is to be preferred to a mindless knee-jerk dismissal with nothing to support the conclusions drawn much less the disputatious spirit in which they are foisted upon us all.
Edited by DWFII - 2/4/14 at 12:43pm