have 8.5 brown beefroll penny loafers, had for less than a day, heels would lift out, and now the soles too marked for exchange. pm if interested.
edit: nvm, getting them resoled and exchanged!
Edited by gohugezero - 9/7/12 at 11:47am
How close to the end of the shoe should your toes be on these? The pair I have fit rather tight, though I'm not sure if I need a wider shoe, a bigger size, or just some patience and luck for these to stretch appropriately.
I have a 9D in the olive beefroll loafer from Lands End and wear a 10E in Allen Edmonds, 9.5D in Wolverine 1000 mile, and a 10EE in (modern) Red Wing boots. I also have a pair of top siders in 10.5W but they are too long, I don't want this to happen again.
here is a pic with me sticking my big toes up, you can sort of see where my foot ends.
I think there is no doubt that the volume of the shoe with a full length insole (all else held constant) is less than with the a half sole. Perhaps this was considered and the design of the upper was modified to account for this when the insole was changed, but I kinda doubt it. My shoes have a small amount of heel slip, which I think is probably unavoidable for a loafer, but the leather in the forefoot area is crazy tight. On top of that, when worn sockless, the spot where the edge of the insole meets the upper is rather irritating. I can see how these problems would be less noticeable on a shoe where you can adjust the fit a little with laces.
I know virtually nothing about building or designing shoes, but I understand geometry. Perhaps sourcing a better glue would have been a more appropriate solution to the original insole problem.
I just got the penny loafers that I ordered from you guys, and I think I'm going to have to return them. They're just a little too loose; they slip off a bit at the end of my push off and bulge more than I'd like around my arch area, especially considering how you said they'll stretch.
Do you think sizing down from an 11.5 to an 11 will work? Thanks.