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Thoughts on these Lobbs and Gravati Radica Calf

post #1 of 18
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Cannot decide between these

Prices adjusted for trees and shipping. Any advice welcome.

JL City II Museum - USD 1,300

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Gravati Radica - USD 700
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post #2 of 18

I mean you have Oxford vs. Derby, which I'm sure you've already debated - not really the same type of shoe.  I know the Lobb City II's Museum calf is from Ilcea and is as smooth as you're gonna get - absolutely beautiful in person.  I want to make little Ilcea leather babies with them.  I'm not familiar with Gravati but it sounds like they are a relatively old handmade Italian brand.  Which ones do you think are nicer/prettier/will wear better?  My vote is for the Lobbs.

post #3 of 18
2 or 3 years from now, you will be glad you got the Lobbs. Seen many guys buy Gravati and later but Lobbs. Never seen anyone buy Lobbs and later buy Gravati.
post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by mr monty View Post

2 or 3 years from now, you will be glad you got the Lobbs. Seen many guys buy Gravati and later but Lobbs. Never seen anyone buy Lobbs and later buy Gravati.

what puts the lobb ahead?
post #5 of 18
Forget about reputation. I like the last better on the Gravati pictured here. The ones I own are extremely comfortable.
post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by mr monty View Post

2 or 3 years from now, you will be glad you got the Lobbs. Seen many guys buy Gravati and later but Lobbs. Never seen anyone buy Lobbs and later buy Gravati.

This is good advice for guys who are madly in love with Lobbs and considering settling for something else. But I've owned Lobbs/Greens/etc. and continue to buy and enjoy plenty of other makes. If I found Gravatis I liked, I wouldn't think twice before buying them.
post #7 of 18
Thread Starter 
Some more pics - still can't decide

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post #8 of 18
Not sure what you seen in the Gravatis. I think they look hideous. If you can afford Lobbs, I don't see why this is even a debate...
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by benjamin831 View Post

Not sure what you seen in the Gravatis. I think they look hideous. If you can afford Lobbs, I don't see why this is even a debate...

i guess, this not gravatis only modell?
post #10 of 18
Lobb city iis are not as good as people say it is. The leather is fine, and sure, it stands on a high pedestal. But Gravatis are better made in my opinion, even without the GY welting. To start, Gravatis all have full leather insole, while the City iis is only half insoled. If one is to look at the stitching closely on Lobbs, it leaves much to be desired. But the stitching on the Gravatis I have and have seen are consistent and really nicely done. Go for Lobb if you want snob value.

All said, for the models under comparison, I prefer the Lobb last more than the Gravati. But you should really compare the captoe by Gravati to the city ii (oxford to oxford). It is lighter than City ii, has a more rounded toe and a full leather sole. I think it is better value too--you can get two pairs at (425E a pair) for the price of one pair of Lobb!
post #11 of 18
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Lobb city iis are not as good as people say it is. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The leather is fine, and sure, it stands on a high pedestal. But Gravatis are better made in my opinion, even without the GY welting. To start, Gravatis all have full leather insole, while the City iis is only half insoled. If one is to look at the stitching closely on Lobbs, it leaves much to be desired. But the stitching on the Gravatis I have and have seen are consistent and really nicely done. Go for Lobb if you want snob value.
All said, for the models under comparison, I prefer the Lobb last more than the Gravati. But you should really compare the captoe by Gravati to the city ii (oxford to oxford). It is lighter than City ii, has a more rounded toe and a full leather sole. I think it is better value too--you can get two pairs at (425E a pair) for the price of one pair of Lobb!

this is a very good and informative post. many thanks
post #12 of 18
I have been wearing my CityII for 6 years everyday because I love them so much..

They're my get around shoes...

They still look very good and the leather is still great even if I walked with them on the peebles of my local beach...

I'm a lifetime Berluti, Weston ,Church's and my City II are m favourite shoes ever...
post #13 of 18
Aesthetically the City II has it, no contest. It looks much nicer than the Gravati you compare it with and also the City I that I had for a while. In terms of build quality and value, well, that's your call.
post #14 of 18
Isn't the answer "both"?

Lobbs for suits.

Gravait's for sc's / trousers
post #15 of 18
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Isn't the answer "both"?
Lobbs for suits & office pants
Gravait's for sc's / trousers

ftfy.

is museum calf really appropriate for a business environment with suits and all?
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