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Originally Posted by MrGimpy View Post


Professional sports has always been a business, but I doubt I'm alone in having more and more trouble seeing past its corporate nature. The idea that despite being fully aware of the idiocy of many athletes and their disdainful treatment of fans, I should still sacrifice substantial amounts of time and money and sanity to cheer on my team was always absurd, but is becoming very difficult to reconcile.

Having a favourite team feels more and more like having a favourite consumer packaged goods company.

 

Expensive? Sure sports like football are expensive but you could go see the Blue Jays play on Friday for under $10 if you were so inclined.

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I really don't think there is one. It's certainly reasonable to dislike sports based upon personal preference, but the argument that sport is somehow intrinsically inferior to other skill/talent-based entertainment is pretty flimsy.

could not agree more.
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Originally Posted by MrGimpy View Post

Professional sports has always been a business, but I doubt I'm alone in having more and more trouble seeing past its corporate nature. The idea that despite being fully aware of the idiocy of many athletes and their disdainful treatment of fans, I should still sacrifice substantial amounts of time and money and sanity to cheer on my team was always absurd, but is becoming very difficult to reconcile.
Having a favourite team feels more and more like having a favourite consumer packaged goods company.

but in the art world its never about money? ill take one monet please. yes gift wrapping.
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Originally Posted by MrGimpy View Post

Having a favourite team feels more and more like having a favourite consumer packaged goods company.

This. I'm not against sports, but I don't happen to be very interested in football or baseball...I like hockey, but not enough to actually change plans or set aside time to watch it because a certain team is playing (except for maybe finals/championships a la the superbowl/stanley cup). Some of this is probably because I just don't care about the teams? What team to I root for? The one from my home town even though they don't have any players left from when I lived there? The one that keeps threatening to abandon the city if the taxpayers don't step up and pay for a stadium (so they can get even more profits)? putting aside the fact that I think football is kind of dumb anyways (all this stopping every 10 seconds and switching lines because players aren't versatile isn't impressive), it really just seems like a stupid money hole to placate the masses. I'd rather play flag football in a park than watch a random monday night game...

But who knows...I'm not even that interested in watching the sports that I participate in myself. The Tour de France can get exciting, and the America's Cup has been thrilling (despite many sfers not getting it)...but I didn't pay attention to the tour at all this year and its not like I watched any of the leadup to the america's cup that was going on in 2012. Those sports don't even have you buying in to a franchise. You can follow actual players, and if you happen to be in the right place, you can spectate for free.

It just feels like the pro sports are a big business venture designed to placate the masses and take their money (either directly, or by providing a venue to marketers). I'm not holding it against anyone to be entertained by these things--they were designed to be--but I still think there are a billion other things I'd rather spend large chunks of my time on.
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but in the art world its never about money? ill take one monet please. yes gift wrapping.

You don't need to buy a famous piece form a long dead painter to enjoy it. It doesn't take tons of money to go to a museum or look through an art book in a library. Ditto for listening to music and reading literature.

And the thing about art, is that it creates something lasting. It's pretty rare for someone to go back and watch old football games. You see the occasional clips from when something awesome happened, and the occasional remembrances, but nobody sits down and says "hey, I really feel like watching a 1990s bears game right now". People listen to old albums, watch old movies, read old books, and stare at old paintings all of the time.
Sure, there are plenty of bad alums that are never spun again and bad books that aren't reissued and vanish...but the goal of the people creating them was to make something good that would stick around.
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 America's Cup has been thrilling (despite many sfers not getting it)

 

I can't wait to watch the race at the club tonight before our last race. Finales all around! All we have to do is finish tonight to take Spring, Summer and Fall :cool: 

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You don't need to buy a famous piece form a long dead painter to enjoy it. It doesn't take tons of money to go to a museum or look through an art book in a library. Ditto for listening to music and reading literature.

you dont need to pay money to enjoy sports either. like literally zero dollars.
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And the thing about art, is that it creates something lasting. It's pretty rare for someone to go back and watch old football games. You see the occasional clips from when something awesome happened, and the occasional remembrances, but nobody sits down and says "hey, I really feel like watching a 1990s bears game right now". People listen to old albums, watch old movies, read old books, and stare at old paintings all of the time.
Sure, there are plenty of bad alums that are never spun again and bad books that aren't reissued and vanish...but the goal of the people creating them was to make something good that would stick around.

all the sports fans that discuss GOATs, and games they remember, and teams and players they remember, and memories of going to games or watching games or rooting for players, or the first time their dad/granddad/uncle/friend took them to a game or watched a game with them, or told them about their fave players when they were growing up..... would disagree with you. there is a very strong lasting impact to sports.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

you dont need to pay money to enjoy sports either. like literally zero dollars.
all the sports fans that discuss GOATs, and games they remember, and teams and players they remember, and memories of going to games or watching games or rooting for players, or the first time their dad/granddad/uncle/friend took them to a game or watched a game with them, or told them about their fave players when they were growing up..... would disagree with you. there is a very strong lasting impact to sports.

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yes. exactly.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

you dont need to pay money to enjoy sports either. like literally zero dollars.
all the sports fans that discuss GOATs, and games they remember, and teams and players they remember, and memories of going to games or watching games or rooting for players, or the first time their dad/granddad/uncle/friend took them to a game or watched a game with them, or told them about their fave players when they were growing up..... would disagree with you. there is a very strong lasting impact to sports.

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Roasted goat barbacoa wrapped in banana leaves....
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Originally Posted by Liam O View Post

and in english, we only have the subjunctive in auxiliary verbs (would, were, should) so it's kinda easy to do.

Untrue.

God help him that believe otherwise whether he understand such or not.
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About to get interviewed for a video to be shown at a charity event in November. I hate being videoed and this will make the second time in two weeks.

#playahProblems
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Camera adds 30 pounds to Canadians. You know that, right brah?
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Good luck!

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Originally Posted by MrGimpy View Post

Having a favourite team feels more and more like having a favourite consumer packaged goods company.

ever see the prices for a Bruce Springsteen/Rolling Stones/other big named band concert?

ever seen the prices they charge to watch The Book of Mormon on broadway?

traveling bands/acts like Phis/Grateful Dead/Jimmy Buffet (YEAH THAT RIGHT MR.G... I said it!) are analogous to sports franchises these days where fans have favorite line ups, favorite set lists, favorite band/team attires, favorite past performances and know the ins and outs , and gossip about each member like a basketball fan would know everything about lebron james and the rest of the miami heat.

even discovering bands when they were young and not yet big (like PB mentioning seeing Metric/Yeah yeah yeahs/others early) is like following young players in college/minor leagues before they hit it big.

Chris Connelly the music journalist, and huge sports lover, even came up with a nice way of looking at successful teams that never won a championship (but still had an inordinate amount of success): critically acclaimed teams*. (just like some bands who didn't hit big financially, but still are revered).

*Ex: 2004-2006 Phoenix Suns, 2001 Sacramento Kings, 2004 Montreal Expos, ect.


things that are pissing me off:

my wife and I watched some pretty depressing things lately. one of them was an HBO special about dogs called One Nation Under Dog that was just heart wrenching.

I still hate/don't want to understand crazy dog people, but damn i hate when you knowingly get sucked into watching some documentary that is brutal/sad/depressing but you do it anyway.
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the other depressing thing I watched with my wife watched was Magic Mike.


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at frist I was like: FUCKING GROSS... Male strippers in G-Strings! then I saw Channing Tatum and he started dancing and he's a legitimately good dancer in a NFL safety's body. Like Patrick Swazye/John Travolta good at dancing. (i linked a video of him dancing regularly in another movie. not stripping with a g string).

seeing him being all tall, muscular, handsome, and good at dancing and being a movie star (who my wife was lusting after) made me feel inadequate. almost as emasculated as when we lived in brooklyn and FDNY manly men would show up at the grocery store and all the women would swoon in their presence.



so after watching the sad HBO dog documentary followed by magic mike pissed me off.
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I bet you wanted to boan him more than your wife did
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