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post #52381 of 61953
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post


I love the lines people draw to society and your career by using sports as reference. I am sure it holds weight in Psych 101, but ultimately I find it laughable because I'd rather spend time learning about actual society and work than some sort of silly illustrative derivative that serves no purpose in the world.

 

How are sports not actual society? You can't just disregard a huge part of culture because you are on a pseudo intellectual hipster tilt. I'd also like to point out that the greatest living American artist, Woody Allen, is a big Knicks fan.

post #52382 of 61953
For all of you sports haters out there, I have a serious question:

What is the difference between an athlete and an artist? Why is, say, Mark Knopfler (or whatever other artist you may enjoy) worthy of reverence, but discussing and watching, say, Peyton Manning is for douchebags and meatheads?
post #52383 of 61953
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

It isn't. Imagine a lot of telling players how to spend money, giving 30 year old dudes remedial financial management lessons and having to settle petty squabbles between players. That's what a lot of it is.

Actually, the first two I wouldn't mind so much. It always makes me sad to read about guys who had so much and squandered it all. I think I would find that rewarding, albeit frustrating.

The latter, however, sounds like HR work, and I think I've been clear about my desire to do that.
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Absolutely. In fact, i boozed up last night and had to pop an excedrin this morning (double-teamed that headache with Advil, too!).

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Though I'm a little uhoh.gif on double doses of NSAIDs. Take that, stomach lining!
post #52384 of 61953
Since my girlfriend has put an axe to my wine drinking during the week I haven't had this problem. Actually come to think of it I haven't had a drink in over a week. I better change that soon.
post #52385 of 61953
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Originally Posted by MrG View Post

For all of you sports haters out there, I have a serious question:

What is the difference between an athlete and an artist? Why is, say, Mark Knopfler (or whatever other artist you may enjoy) worthy of reverence, but discussing and watching, say, Peyton Manning is for douchebags and meatheads?

YOu could make an argument that art and culture helps lift up the human condition and allows for intellectual expression that sports does...
post #52386 of 61953
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

How are sports not actual society? You can't just disregard a huge part of culture because you are on a pseudo intellectual hipster tilt. I'd also like to point out that the greatest living American artist, Woody Allen, is a big Knicks fan.

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Originally Posted by MrG View Post

For all of you sports haters out there, I have a serious question:

What is the difference between an athlete and an artist? Why is, say, Mark Knopfler (or whatever other artist you may enjoy) worthy of reverence, but discussing and watching, say, Peyton Manning is for douchebags and meatheads?

In all honesty, I want to like sports, but I find them incredibly boring. I don't care about the strategy of a game that serves no purpose for anything else than entertainment. As for musicians, perhaps because I have strong feelings from listening to music that isn't felt when I watch a sport. Plus music is all about emotion to me, not winning a a game.
post #52387 of 61953
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post


 Plus music is all about emotion to me, not winning a a game.

 

You've never watched Carmelo Anthony then!

post #52388 of 61953
I don't feel like googling that.
post #52389 of 61953
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I don't feel like googling that.

 

He (seemingly) cares more about taking pretty shots and scoring lots of points than winning. So he's more about the art of the 3 ball than winning.

post #52390 of 61953
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

YOu could make an argument that art and culture helps lift up the human condition and allows for intellectual expression that sports does...

You could. You could also make an argument that the weather in Atlanta right now is perfect for sunbathing.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post


In all honesty, I want to like sports, but I find them incredibly boring. I don't care about the strategy of a game that serves no purpose for anything else than entertainment. As for musicians, perhaps because I have strong feelings from listening to music that isn't felt when I watch a sport. Plus music is all about emotion to me, not winning a a game.

That's fair, but it's definitely different from the way you've addressed sports in the past (which I understand is as much about your SF persona as your actual opinion).

I can see simply not enjoying sports as a matter of personal preference (there are many sports I don't enjoy), but that's not quite the same as condemning sports as dumb in a general sense.
post #52391 of 61953
My main issue with ball players is, I don't care how good you are at kicking a ball, you are not worth 300.000£ a week and then the clubs turn around and charge the fans astronomical prices to watch said idiots kicking a ball around every week (95<£ wtf)

It's not even like they are putting their life at risk like race car drivers or fighters, no they kick ball and act like twats just look at Balotelli.

Musicians are not a lot better, some are if possible worse.
post #52392 of 61953
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Originally Posted by MrG View Post

You could. You could also make an argument that the weather in Atlanta right now is perfect for sunbathing.

I'm doing that now!
post #52393 of 61953
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Obvious straight lines, are obvious.
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(quoted for potentially vaguely racist irony)

thank you ld for picking up on that. thought no one would.
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Originally Posted by MrG View Post

For all of you sports haters out there, I have a serious question:
What is the difference between an athlete and an artist? Why is, say, Mark Knopfler (or whatever other artist you may enjoy) worthy of reverence, but discussing and watching, say, Peyton Manning is for douchebags and meatheads?

if you ever get a decent answer to this, please let me know. in the meanwhile, ill continue being a meathead.
post #52394 of 61953
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

My main issue with ball players is, I don't care how good you are at kicking a ball, you are not worth 300.000£ a week and then the clubs turn around and charge the fans astronomical prices to watch said idiots kicking a ball around every week (95<£ wtf)

It's not even like they are putting their life at risk like race car drivers or fighters, no they kick ball and act like twats just look at Balotelli.

Musicians are not a lot better, some are if possible worse.

Professional sports has always been a business, but I doubt I'm alone in having more and more trouble seeing past its corporate nature. The idea that despite being fully aware of the idiocy of many athletes and their disdainful treatment of fans, I should still sacrifice substantial amounts of time and money and sanity to cheer on my team was always absurd, but is becoming very difficult to reconcile.

Having a favourite team feels more and more like having a favourite consumer packaged goods company.
post #52395 of 61953
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

I'm doing that now!

So that's what was holding up traffic this morning.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

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if you ever get a decent answer to this, please let me know. in the meanwhile, ill continue being a meathead.

I really don't think there is one. It's certainly reasonable to dislike sports based upon personal preference, but the argument that sport is somehow intrinsically inferior to other skill/talent-based entertainment is pretty flimsy.
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