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post #49411 of 65662
douglas, i was saying, if there has been a rash on your specific block, maybe the peeps on the block can get a dedicated patrol person, 24/7 for a few weeks. often that will get the perps to move on elsewhere, or better yet get caught. and sometimes, with kids like this, once they move on they stay moved on. we are not dealing with sophisticated burglars here from i understand you to mean. just opportunistic pieces of shit who think they found an area where they can act without fear of getting caught.

just an idea. and also, i have no idea what the cost would be.
post #49412 of 65662
A quick google search puts an unarmed driver at $350/day. I presume that's an 8 hour shift, so for 24/7 protection on the couple affected blocks is $1000/day. Even if there were 100 homes affected (there are not), that's $10/day/house, or $300/month. And the wider you go, the less useful the patrol.

Assuming the 50% participation number, you're talking about trying to get 50 people to spring for $600 for one month of security.

Not gonna happen.
post #49413 of 65662
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Originally Posted by englade321 View Post

I would be very nervous to attempt to use a baseball bat for home defense, especially if groups are attacking you.

I would only use a bat to discourage and then only if forced into a corner or to protect family members from harm . Using guns to protect your possessions is stupid imo[/quote]

Why do you say that? I think a group of people, even teenagers, is taking a bat off of you. They are then using it to beat you worse then they would otherwise. Plus, most hallways are too narrow to get a good swing, you'd likely end up just beating your walls or furniture.

There was a break-in down the street from my parents house where they entered through the garage (broke into his car and clicked the opener). They beat the guy up pretty badly as he tried to defend himself. If he used a bat or knife he would have probably went to the hospital if he were not killed.

Douglas, they should have a patrol car 24/7, IMO. There is one very nice neighborhood in Trenton that I'm aware of, and they patrol 24/7 with multiple cars. Not that unheard of if they want to maintain residents that are willing to take the risk of living there.
Edited by SkinnyGoomba - 7/25/13 at 11:29am
post #49414 of 65662
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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post

A quick google search puts an unarmed driver at $350/day. I presume that's an 8 hour shift, so for 24/7 protection on the couple affected blocks is $1000/day. Even if there were 100 homes affected (there are not), that's $10/day/house, or $300/month. And the wider you go, the less useful the patrol.

Assuming the 50% participation number, you're talking about trying to get 50 people to spring for $600 for one month of security.

Not gonna happen.
How about 11pm to 7am that gets you down to $200 a month. I'd be all over that in your situation
post #49415 of 65662
should, could, schmould.

as i have stated, we have ~50% participation in a program that offers 1 shift for 800 homes and costs a tiny fraction of even $200/month.

Facts are facts. Dunno what else to tell you. And I sure as hell don't have the time to go knocking door-to-door to organize and raise a fund. Better scenario for me is to try to lock it down tight, simple as that.
post #49416 of 65662
This might sound a bit crazy, but what about offering an off duty cop 5k to catch one of the kids? That's got to be ok cash for a cop, and not such a hardship for your neighbors.


Just a suggestion about a baseball bat, or any weapon - never, ever use a weapon to 'scare' people if you aren't 100 percent sure you are willing to kill somebody with it. That is a pretty surefire way to get hurt or killed.
post #49417 of 65662
Douglas, practically speaking, you want to make your house the most intimidating on the block, so that it's just easier to hit somebody else. Most probably, it'll involve making the house less pretty. I can't speak highly enough of a door company called pladelet - google them I am sure they have an agent in Baltimore. They put in a steel door and a frame.

Lights attached to motion sensors are good, too. Cameras on the sides of the building can be intimidating. I'd look into companies with armed response, at the very least their signs might be helpful on your lawn.

Good luck.
post #49418 of 65662
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

I would only use a bat to discourage and then only if forced into a corner or to protect family members from harm . Using guns to protect your possessions is stupid imo

Why do you say that? I think a group of people, even teenagers, is taking a bat off of you. They are then using it to beat you worse then they would otherwise. Plus, most hallways are too narrow to get a good swing, you'd likely end up just beating your walls or furniture.

There was a break-in down the street from my parents house where they entered through the garage (broke into his car and clicked the opener). They beat the guy up pretty badly as he tried to defend himself. If he used a bat or knife he would have probably went to the hospital if he were not killed.

Douglas, they should have a patrol car 24/7, IMO. There is one very nice neighborhood in Trenton that I'm aware of, and they patrol 24/7 with multiple cars. Not that unheard of if they want to maintain residents that are willing to take the risk of living there.[/quote]


I cannot disagree with what you say . Going up against a group of people who wish you harm is never going to be easy . It is just that there seems to be a trend in the reliance on firearms for home protection and I personally would discourage that . I think the sense of false bravado is reduced when the option is to either go at someone with a bat or run
post #49419 of 65662
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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post

A quick google search puts an unarmed driver at $350/day. I presume that's an 8 hour shift, so for 24/7 protection on the couple affected blocks is $1000/day. Even if there were 100 homes affected (there are not), that's $10/day/house, or $300/month. And the wider you go, the less useful the patrol.
Assuming the 50% participation number, you're talking about trying to get 50 people to spring for $600 for one month of security.
Not gonna happen.

that is pricey. sucks. i hope you guys find a solution and more importantly, that you dont get hit. frown.gif
post #49420 of 65662
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Why do you say that? I think a group of people, even teenagers, is taking a bat off of you. They are then using it to beat you worse then they would otherwise. Plus, most hallways are too narrow to get a good swing, you'd likely end up just beating your walls or furniture.

There was a break-in down the street from my parents house where they entered through the garage (broke into his car and clicked the opener). They beat the guy up pretty badly as he tried to defend himself. If he used a bat or knife he would have probably went to the hospital if he were not killed.

Douglas, they should have a patrol car 24/7, IMO. There is one very nice neighborhood in Trenton that I'm aware of, and they patrol 24/7 with multiple cars. Not that unheard of if they want to maintain residents that are willing to take the risk of living there.

I cannot disagree with what you say . Going up against a group of people who wish you harm is never going to be easy . It is just that there seems to be a trend in the reliance on firearms for home protection and I personally would discourage that . I think the sense of false bravado is reduced when the option is to either go at someone with a bat or run

Y'alls got to fix your god damn quotes.
post #49421 of 65662
Sure, I can understand that. If it came down to that for me, it would have to be the last resort.
post #49422 of 65662
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

Y'alls got to fix your god damn quotes.
+1 sorry
Edited by englade321 - 7/25/13 at 1:00pm
post #49423 of 65662
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

Y'alls got to fix your god damn quotes.
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+1

amen
post #49424 of 65662
This has been the trip from hell.

I'm in a different country, there was supposed to be a hotel for me, apparently there isn't. Literally, every room in this city is booked.

I can't get what I need to go do work. And that wouldn't be a big deal if I had somewhere to go tonight.

NO ONE i was talking to has responded to an email or call from me about any of these issues for 24 hours now.

I honestly have no idea what to do. I'm camped out in the lobby of this hotel just waiting for an answer on something. Supposedly some people here are trying to find me a room. The worst part is is that I just knew this trip would be a disaster and I had a chance to pull out earlier this week but told my boss I would go.

Oh, and flying down I got upgraded to first class but it was an odd bulkhead so I had less room than in coach, and sat next to a dude who wouldn't shut up. Like I had headphones on AND was going back to sleep and he was still talking, It was a midnight flight.

ETA: because the Bar is next week, my GF isn't helping because she's stressed out and I just can't deal with that at the moment.
Edited by edinatlanta - 7/25/13 at 3:21pm
post #49425 of 65662
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post

Douglas


1. We have the 'different rules for different families' with our kids. I basically say that we have higher expectations than other families but also better expectations of rewards. And my kids seem to get it. But it can be very frustrating.

2. Boy, I feel for you in this. You don't want to be shooting a kid. You feel like a sitting duck. And, frankly, you might not want to be facing 4 inner city 17 year olds with a baseball bat in your hands.

Have you thought about better doors? Steel door are pretty much burglar proof.

The idea of hiring a guard for a short term might be worth it. These aren't criminal masterminds, if one gets cought the problem might be over.

It seems to me that their cant be that much manufacturing in that hellhole you live in. Can't you call the mayor and ask for some extra support? A couple of anti crime guys for a few days could solve the problem

Good luck.
My neighborhood hired off duty police patrols when we had a problem with break-ins. Worked very well.
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