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post #42511 of 70148
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Speaking of silly lawsuits -

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/mc-lehigh-university-student-sues-over-grade-20130211,0,937005.story

I'm really interested in that lawsuit. I might bring action against my undergraduate alma mater for the D's I got for not understanding the coursework.

Of course, it was a conspiracy that they would make me take such an awful subject. Hell, were it not for that, I might be Thomas, Ph.D
post #42512 of 70148
Just read that online. I want to personally beat the shit out of her and her father.
post #42513 of 70148
Even with all the good things that are happening (new job, own company doing better, relationship doing fine, family keeping low) I still have this sense of melancholy setting in. I guess I'll have to deal with this winter depression thing every year for the rest of my life. Sigh..

btw. The stomach problems I complained about earlier, tested negative for helicobacter. Acid inhibitors and no alcohol did the trick. With hindsight it probably had to do with the stress of working during that last two months, which is now sorted out..
post #42514 of 70148
They dropped wrestling from the Olympics. WTF?
post #42515 of 70148
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Wait, wait wait. Your analysts get paid hourly with OVERTIME?!

well...not hourly. They are salaried but they are not exempt employees (more on the exempt thing later...). Honestly, I don't know why more companies don't do it this way. Entry level employees don't really know what they want and you don't know if you like them.

Start them with a relatively low base salary based on a 35 hour week. It provides strong incentives to work more(we never have trouble rounding up some analysts on the weekend to do shitty data entry since if you didn't have any plans on sunday, why not make a few hundred bucks while you listen to music and sit around in your underwear?) and saves the company money when you are underutilized. Since they are billable, an extra hour worked is far more money for the company than an extra hour of OT. Work as much as a banker? Get paid like a banker. Come it at 9, take an hour for lunch and leave at 5? Won't pay you as much but as long as your work is good and you are billing, you can stay around as an analyst.
If times are slow and there's not a lot of work, the payroll also goes down (or if you suck and nobody wants to give you work, then at least they aren't paying you a lot just to sit around).
Really seems to help with the motivation and morale I think...new employees don't really have the buy-in that more senior people have so they see the extra work show up as extra money next friday (while more senior people are more motivated by projects being successful, professional reputation being good, and knowing that it should all get worked out come bonus time).

As to the companies that don't pay OT...I'm not sure I know how they get away with it.
There are a few tests to qualify as exempt. Most consulting employees meet the salary level test (something like 23k a year), but I don't see how they meet the duties tests.
-They don't supervise other employees
-management is not a primary part of the position (buget, interviewing, planning work, etc)
-they have no hiring/firing/raise input.
-most of their work isn't independant (not deciding the course of a project, not interacting with clients without direction from above, etc).
Then, they aren't learned professionals (pretty much all out of undergrad, so no doctors/lawyers/architects, etc), and they aren't administrative (they are all directly working on the core business).

Obviously there is something that lets the company claim them exempt...but I think that a lot of it is that entry level employees don't know shit about the world and thus don't know that they are really supposed to be eligible for overtime (and are happy just to have a job).

All of the sales people at my company are now non-exempt. They have to keep track of their hours, and they are paid OT if they go over 40 hours per week. Management doesn't want anybody going over 40 hours unless they can justify it in the form of closed business. I'm completely baffled by this, but apparently it's the result of a lawsuit that Oracle lost a few years ago.

As a sales engineer I fall into the exempt category, which suits me just fine. I've always been terrible about keeping track of my hours.
post #42516 of 70148
Wage and hour audits are scarey shit. I think sometimes one size fits all rules for the entire US workforce often just do not fit. The test for exempt was created so basically only a manager or a "professional" could be exempt but I think the criteria have been so closely honed that people that probably should be exempt often are not as employers really take those wage and hour audits seriously. Thank god for unions!
post #42517 of 70148
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Originally Posted by imatlas View Post

All of the sales people at my company are now non-exempt. They have to keep track of their hours, and they are paid OT if they go over 40 hours per week. Management doesn't want anybody going over 40 hours unless they can justify it in the form of closed business. I'm completely baffled by this, but apparently it's the result of a lawsuit that Oracle lost a few years ago.

As a sales engineer I fall into the exempt category, which suits me just fine. I've always been terrible about keeping track of my hours.

Well...since consulting revenue comes from billable hours, we have to keep track of that whether or not we are being paid overtime frown.gif

Sales seems odd..I thought there was a pretty reasonable exemption for commissioned employees (once commissions make up X% of your expected income, they don't have to pay OT).
post #42518 of 70148
I used to date a girl who works for a publisher. She was non-exempt but had a similar deal where any overtime required supervisor pre-approval and they really didn't want people working OT. She would still do work outside of 9-5 and just wouldn't fill out the time since it wasn't pre-approved.

This seemed like total *facepalm* to me. She shouldn't want to do it because she's not getting paid for it (and as a non-exempt employee, her fairly low salary certainly wasn't compensating her for the need to do afterhours work). The company shouldn't want her to do it since it opens them up to a huge liability.

I get that the work needs to get done...but when a deadline is looming or something comes up last minute, either pay the OT, make the exempt manager take care of it, or accept that the work's not going to be done and push the deadline.
post #42519 of 70148
Floor healthcare workers are infamous for not taking their full lunch or for working off the clock before or after a shift. They often have crummy time management, and sit and chat for hours mid-shift, so they work off the clock not to get in shit. More than one organization has had to fork out big money for not controlling these things.
post #42520 of 70148
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They dropped wrestling from the Olympics. WTF?

well, it is a rather new sport. tongue.gif
post #42521 of 70148
Amazon Prime's 2-day shipping is routinely becoming 3-day shipping.
post #42522 of 70148
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

They dropped wrestling from the Olympics. WTF?

They need more space for X-game inclusions. Something like downhill dirt rollerblading.
post #42523 of 70148
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Originally Posted by StephenHero View Post

Amazon Prime's 2-day shipping is routinely becoming 3-day shipping.

what? shog[1].gif
post #42524 of 70148
Why would they remove one of the original Olympic sports? Is the US trying to spot China a few medals so the Chinese can win the medal count because they are better at the bullshit sports?
post #42525 of 70148
Wedding planning BS. My fiance and I have different values with regard to the importance (expense) of weddings. Off the bat I resigned myself to paying much more than I would like and having little to no control over things. One of my few requests was that I be left alone to deal with what I and my groomsmen will wear. Cut to her slowly edging in on what me and my groomsmen will be wearing . . . baldy[1].gif

She seems oblivious to the fact that asking leading questions "what kind of vests will they be wearing", is in fact putting forth her opinion, not merely asking a question. So, SO, so ready to be married.
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