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post #32671 of 47215
6/24/12 at 6:31pm
Do you know how Bauhaus ended?


It's 3:30 am and I'm wide awake
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post #32672 of 47215
6/24/12 at 6:35pm
One dead dog, one sick dog, and the biggest casualty of the weekend was my idealism. I seriously think I'm an idiot on that front, and possibly others.
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post #32673 of 47215
6/24/12 at 6:40pm
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One dead dog, one sick dog, and the biggest casualty of the weekend was my idealism. I seriously think I'm an idiot on that front, and possibly others.
Doesn't sound like a good weekend. Sorry about your dog, and hope the other one gets better.
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post #32674 of 47215
6/24/12 at 7:03pm
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Do you know how Bauhaus ended?
It's 3:30 am and I'm wide awake

The Nazis suppressed it as a degenerate Jewish movement, and it's centre moved to the U.S.? I'm not sure though because I lost interest after Bela Lugosi's Dead.
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post #32675 of 47215
6/24/12 at 7:04pm
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One dead dog, one sick dog, and the biggest casualty of the weekend was my idealism. I seriously think I'm an idiot on that front, and possibly others.

That's awful Thomas, hope the other pooch is OK.
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6/24/12 at 7:54pm
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One dead dog, one sick dog, and the biggest casualty of the weekend was my idealism. I seriously think I'm an idiot on that front, and possibly others.

frown.gif sorry tbird. rough weekend for ya. hope it picks up soon.
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post #32677 of 47215
6/24/12 at 9:44pm
I'm supposed to cut carbs starting this past weekend.... but wife made freaking good paella sunday, had chips and beer sunday night, and right now I'm eating this chinese dish of chicken stuffed with rice and mushrooms. I should start crying while eating.
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post #32678 of 47215
6/24/12 at 10:02pm
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One dead dog, one sick dog, and the biggest casualty of the weekend was my idealism. I seriously think I'm an idiot on that front, and possibly others.

sorry about that Thomas. keep the faith, you are doing god's work (and I very seldomly say that non-ironically)
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post #32679 of 47215
6/24/12 at 10:04pm
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The Nazis suppressed it as a degenerate Jewish movement, and it's centre moved to the U.S.? I'm not sure though because I lost interest after Bela Lugosi's Dead.

it's center moved to death camps, basically.

although, israel benifited from the good timing - because Tel Aviv was being built at the time, tel Aviv has the best concentration of Bahous buildings in the world.
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post #32680 of 47215
6/25/12 at 12:58am
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yes, but all of the above were persecuted by the popularly elected german government.
there are plenty of points of light coming out of germany in the early 20th century, unfortunatly it would be almost impossible to make any type of historical documentary about them without making the german people look bad. great german authors? check. persecuted by the german people? check. great German archetects? check? persecuted by the german people? check. great German artists? check. persecuted by the german people? check. great german movie artisist? check. have persecuted by the german people, half involved in persecution? check.
don't get me wrong, I am about as much a germophile as any jew can be, but the message of early and mid 20th century history conerning Germany isn't and shouldn't be positive.

What you said above is true but the history of the first third of the 20th century shouldn't be slanted by things that came later. Until the mid 30s there was nothing more negative about Germany than most or all other European countries. They lost WWI does that make them any worse than the winners? In some ways it's actually a positive because one of the reasons that they lost was because the German people became sick of the slaughter earlier than those on the other team.
Edited by Fang66 - 6/25/12 at 2:24am
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post #32681 of 47215
6/25/12 at 1:59am
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The Nazis suppressed it as a degenerate Jewish movement, and it's centre moved to the U.S.? I'm not sure though because I lost interest after Bela Lugosi's Dead.

Basically, so it's hard to mention something from that time period with out it some how finds it's way back to WW1 or WW2.


I can guarantee you 90%< of the European population, has a story regarding WW2, f.ex. my granddad (mothers father) was pronounced dead twice during WW2, as he was working in Berlin as a technician and was on board a train which was bombed, he returned home two years later, where his family had given all his stuff away, as they though he was dead.

My other granddad was shot in the back by freedom fighters, as he was of Austrian/Italian decent and they though he was a Nazi, which he wasn't as he was adopted and a normal family man, the only reason why he survived was that he was shot in back and they mixed up where the heart was placed.


So it's hard make a positive twist on that time period, as it's still a sore subject here.
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post #32682 of 47215
6/25/12 at 2:23am
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Basically, so it's hard to mention something from that time period with out it some how finds it's way back to WW1 or WW2.
I can guarantee you 90%< of the European population, has a story regarding WW2, f.ex. my granddad (mothers father) was pronounced dead twice during WW2, as he was working in Berlin as a technician and was on board a train which was bombed, he returned home two years later, where his family had given all his stuff away, as they though he was dead.
My other granddad was shot in the back by freedom fighters, as he was of Austrian/Italian decent and they though he was a Nazi, which he wasn't as he was adopted and a normal family man, the only reason why he survived was that he was shot in back and they mixed up where the heart was placed.
So it's hard make a positive twist on that time period, as it's still a sore subject here.

I understand exactly what you're saying, and I have my own family history with the Nazis and also with Imperial Japan. However just because people's views are coloured by subsequent history does not means that there needs to be any 'twist' at all to find positive history in Germany prior to the mid 30s. The examples I gave all stand as positive aspects of early 20th century German history that might be suitable for historical documentaries. This directly addresses globetrotter's point that,
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it is sort of hard to put a positive spin on Germany for the first half of the 20th century, so that does make "historical documentaries" a little one sided....
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post #32683 of 47215
6/25/12 at 3:00am
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Basically, so it's hard to mention something from that time period with out it some how finds it's way back to WW1 or WW2.
I can guarantee you 90%< of the European population, has a story regarding WW2, f.ex. my granddad (mothers father) was pronounced dead twice during WW2, as he was working in Berlin as a technician and was on board a train which was bombed, he returned home two years later, where his family had given all his stuff away, as they though he was dead.
My other granddad was shot in the back by freedom fighters, as he was of Austrian/Italian decent and they though he was a Nazi, which he wasn't as he was adopted and a normal family man, the only reason why he survived was that he was shot in back and they mixed up where the heart was placed.
So it's hard make a positive twist on that time period, as it's still a sore subject here.

You're probably right there - never talked to my grandparents about their experience during WWII, then asked one of my grandfathers on a whim. He starts talking about them fleeing before the German advance (living in Belgium) and seeing people shot by fighter strafing runs...


OT: final presentation for our project is on Wednesday, my groupmates are coming to the city to work on it, I expect them to be here by 11 so we can get some work done..."Oh, I'll probably be there around 2pm" Too lazy for words.
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post #32684 of 47215
6/25/12 at 3:09am
My grandad was a WW1 hero and never spoke about the WW2..

He never accepted the defeat but his generation made such a sacrifice losing 1.5 million men ...

My grandad was injured 3 times and lost his hip bone at 20 leaving him disabled..

My dad suffered the bombing of Sartrouville when the British or American destryed a vital bridge on the Seine..

A lot of people died and he was 14 ..

He never spoke about it..

The rest of my family was in the Pyrenees and were first under Italian occupation ..

They never complained about them..

In 1942, the Germans invaded and it was a different story..

Partisans were shot in villages bt they never hated the Germans..
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post #32685 of 47215
6/25/12 at 4:06am
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One dead dog, one sick dog, and the biggest casualty of the weekend was my idealism. I seriously think I'm an idiot on that front, and possibly others.

Sorry to hear that T, I hope you other dog is back to his healthy state soon!


Damn SF, ITT: guys complaining about work and the weather got serious and started discussing history.

My freaking lower back ffffuuuu.gif
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