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post #83701 of 85798
Kinda true. But sales takes way more balls than all the clerical shit it would seem everyone else is up to tongue.gif

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JzE7lXM6mho
post #83702 of 85798
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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

Kinda true. But sales takes way more balls than all the clerical shit it would seem everyone else is up to tongue.gif

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JzE7lXM6mho

 

No.  They don't have balls.  They're cry-babies who lack critical reasoning skills and reading comprehension.

 

Actual thread.

Sales: Marketing, our order for product x was just denied because we're out of inventory.  Is there anything we can do?

Me: Yes, you can purchase the alternate SKUs, but we sent out multiple notices that the product was going EOL.
Sales: Well, the customer wants x.  Just allocate the units to our order.
Me: No.  We literally don't have any more.  That's why the product is EOL.

 

I'm now on the fourth iteration of the same thread with the same sales team.  I feel like I'm in Groundhog's Day.
 

post #83703 of 85798
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

No.  They don't have balls.  They're cry-babies who lack critical reasoning skills and reading comprehension.

One of my buddies is a field engineer for a laser company. Half his job is trying to compensate for lies told by the salespeople to get a sale.
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One of my buddies is a field engineer for a laser company. Half his job is trying to compensate for lies told by the salespeople to get a sale.


I was a field engineer in a sales organization in my previous job.  Can confirm.  Worse yet, I worked with law firms and our sales teams were lawyers, so both sides were clueless on things like software. 

post #83705 of 85798
It seems odd that they would have lawyers as their salespeople. That seems like sort of a waste of a law degree to me.
post #83706 of 85798
That's bc bcbrah is lying. This is the Internet, after all.
post #83707 of 85798
Sales and operations will always hate each other but they are inexorably linked. It's just the way of the world.
post #83708 of 85798

There is a place near The Chili Chack where I go to make love to pretty women. Their sales folks are always at The Chack assuring me that there are making-loves available for purchase, but when I arrive their operations people tell me "I'm sorry, there are no making-loves currently available. I guess our sales folks are a bit overzealous!" But then I confront the sales folks and they tell me "Bull to the shit the operations folks are using up the making-loves themselves but not entering them into the database."

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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

That's bc bcbrah is lying. This is the Internet, after all.

post #83710 of 85798
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Originally Posted by VaderDave View Post

It seems odd that they would have lawyers as their salespeople. That seems like sort of a waste of a law degree to me.

 

I generally agree with you; however, my former employer was adamant that the sales force be lawyers (except in some unique positions and even then the preference was for JDs).  Selling legal products to law firms, government agencies, and corporate legal departments?  It doesn't seem unreasonable.  Plus think about it this way: the sales force makes $100k+/yr  and works a lot less than most associatess.  They're never going to make big NY firm partner money, but they're not going to work that hard either. 

post #83711 of 85798
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

That's bc bcbrah is lying. This is the Internet, after all.



If I was lying, wouldn't I come up with a better lie to impress you all? Like I'm a wine connoisseur with a cushy executive level job, and I'd complain about sales teams bugging me trying to sell me stuff rather than them not being able to read changes to our product offerings (or I run a Chili restaurant and teach philosophy)?

post #83712 of 85798
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(or I run a Chili restaurant and sell lingerie out of the backdoor)?

post #83713 of 85798
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post



If I was lying, wouldn't I come up with a better lie to impress you all? Like I'm a wine connoisseur with a cushy executive level job, and I'd complain about sales teams bugging me trying to sell me stuff rather than them not being able to read changes to our product offerings (or I run a Chili restaurant and teach philosophy)?

Why you gotta call out Liarbaire like that mang, not cool.
post #83714 of 85798
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

I generally agree with you; however, my former employer was adamant that the sales force be lawyers (except in some unique positions and even then the preference was for JDs).  Selling legal products to law firms, government agencies, and corporate legal departments?  It doesn't seem unreasonable.  Plus think about it this way: the sales force makes $100k+/yr  and works a lot less than most associatess.  They're never going to make big NY firm partner money, but they're not going to work that hard either. 

It's all reasonable. I just think it's probably overkill, except for the "hey: you're a lawyer? I'm a lawyer too--I understand you and what you need" angle (which might be pretty important). But if the product is software based and they are clueless about software (like you mentioned earlier), it seems like it would be better to have someone with more software knowledge and less legal knowledge. But I haven't ever worked in that industry so I'm just guessing. biggrin.gif

EDIT: I guess I should also keep in mind that the US is full of good people with JDs who can't get a decent legal job these days, so if this is a decent gig, then all the more power to 'em.
post #83715 of 85798
I know a ton of salespeople with STEM PhDs. You know how to speak the right language, know which shit people in the industry care about. And like JDs, there's a big surplus of qualified people in the industry, so they have to end up somewhere.

Most of them make more money than those of us who are still doing science.
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