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post #82126 of 85792
so my three-day quick work break is over and only slightly ruined on Monday (got a text asking if I could respond to an email blah blah blah and I just didn't acknowledge the text. The break from work is worth whatever shit I have to eat today).

I was fully expecting to be more burned out and bitter coming back but I'm not. Not that I'm happy about things but I don't have an all-consuming rage or anything like I had last Wednesday.

However, any break makes me realize I can't fucking wait to be retired.
post #82127 of 85792
Sometimes I wonder what I would do with my life if I ever had a huge windfall of fuck you money (not necessarily fuck you to the point where I'm buying boats and jets, but enough to live very very comfortably and pass it on to future generations).

I think the first year I'd just go travel the world and lead a very stress free life. But after that? I think it would get stale, not having a sense of purpose.

I think I'd start a company or sth and start working again. I couldn't imagine sitting idly on my hands till death.
post #82128 of 85792
Probably a lifetime of gay cruises
post #82129 of 85792
I think you'd get bored of that rather quickly but you do you brah.
post #82130 of 85792
I would set up a VC firm focusing on small loans in developing markets.
post #82131 of 85792
Pretty remarkable that the comments above conflate meaning or purpose with work and/or economic productivity. Historically anomalous position (work was that shitty stuff you wanted to be fortunate enough not to do so you could lord it around or lead a contemplative life) that seems utterly commonsensical or even natural--the simplest definition of ideology. Which is to to say: if you can't imagine doing anything worthwhile with enough money to be independent for life, you've pretty much trained to be a drone--or, better yet, a drone who thinks being a drone is meaningful.
post #82132 of 85792
The key distinction being a founder / CEO of a company and driving your own vision vs. being employed on the payroll to serve as another cog in someone else's dream.

Edit: at least until you get pushed out by your board 😂...😭
post #82133 of 85792

Well at least I'm not a drone because I've been financially independent for 10 years and never once thought about doing anything that could be looked upon as a job

post #82134 of 85792
I fucking hate it when I agree with Eric but he's completely correct.
post #82135 of 85792
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

The key distinction being a founder / CEO of a company and driving your own vision vs. being employed on the payroll to serve as another cog in someone else's dream.

Edit: at least until you get pushed out by your board 😂...😭

"Driving your own vision" is--aside from being strictly nonsensical (because you don't drive vision)--hollow corporate-good-feely bullshit for "making stuff happen in a way that you can control." Except the funny thing is that in your hypothetical scenario, you'd already have the money to do and pursue shit. The only reasons for wanting to be a "founder / CEO" to do shit you want (when you already have the means to do what you want) is some combination of:

- what you really want to do is impose your will on your own drones
- your "vision" is just as fucking contentless as your own drivel writing suggests it is (you have no idea what you want to do)

Voila! Some sort of corporate fantasy structure substitutes for any kind of meaning. And your edit gives it away, of course--you know that your "founder / CEO" fantasy is bullshit anyways, but you have substantial alternative.
post #82136 of 85792
Eric getting his panties in a bunch over my poasts makes my day.

I wouldn't hire him though because he has a bad attitude to where he would disrespect his superiors. Can't have nonnadat at the world class organization I would run.

Gonna change the world guise!
post #82137 of 85792
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Originally Posted by erictheobscure View Post

Pretty remarkable that the comments above conflate meaning or purpose with work and/or economic productivity. Historically anomalous position (work was that shitty stuff you wanted to be fortunate enough not to do so you could lord it around or lead a contemplative life) that seems utterly commonsensical or even natural--the simplest definition of ideology. Which is to to say: if you can't imagine doing anything worthwhile with enough money to be independent for life, you've pretty much trained to be a drone--or, better yet, a drone who thinks being a drone is meaningful.

IIRC, this is what Marx talked a lot about in "The Communist Manifesto" in that our work defines us (which I think is absurd. If it weren't for social mores when someone asks "what do you do" I would say I am an aspiring bonsai artist, I love my garden and hope that I can practice some form of true Christian charity every day.)

While I can certainly think of ways I would love to spend my time were I independently wealthy (BONSAI! GARDENING!) I do think much of it would feel a bit, well I'm not sure what the right word is and I don't want to say hollow but maybe just self aware/insecure enough to know that people were probably judging me.
post #82138 of 85792
When asked, "What do you do?" my standard response is to give a self-deprecating chuckle and say, "As little as possible."
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

IIRC, this is what Marx talked a lot about in "The Communist Manifesto" in that our work defines us (which I think is absurd. If it weren't for social mores when someone asks "what do you do" I would say I am an aspiring bonsai artist, I love my garden and hope that I can practice some form of true Christian charity every day.)

While I can certainly think of ways I would love to spend my time were I independently wealthy (BONSAI! GARDENING!) I do think much of it would feel a bit, well I'm not sure what the right word is and I don't want to say hollow but maybe just self aware/insecure enough to know that people were probably judging me.
post #82139 of 85792
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

When asked, "What do you do?" my standard response is to give a self-deprecating chuckle and say, "As little as possible."

I will use that!

(cuz its true more than anything else)
post #82140 of 85792
I hadn't invoked Marx and I tried to cite older modes of thinking of work as shitty (aristocratic, Christian contemplative). But now that the specter of Marx has reappeared, might as well make it explicit that what we're talking about is alienated labor. At his (most appealing but also weakest) moments of utopian optimism, Marx thought that after the imminent revolution, we could lead lives of unalienated labor (do work that we would find meaningful rather than simply mediated by capital). What's also remarkable in GreenFrog's banality or FindFinn's venality is that they want unalienated labor too. Except they can't even imagine a form of work/meaning outside of late capitalist/corporate modes (CEO, venture capitalism). Even/especially the fantastical scenario of being a multi-millionaire reveals an inability to imagine a social configuration that might foster different forms of content for life & activity.
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