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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

there's an informal definition of karma just like there is one for literally and irony

Yeah, there's an informal definition for "irregardless", too. Which is just another way of saying some dickhead on the internet has memorialized the fact that a lot of morons don't even know what the hell they're saying.

If you're one of the 3% of the population who know what the real definition is and are using the word in the "alternative" way with a sense or irony or at least awareness, I'll cut you a little slack. I'll probably still think you're a douche who's not worth listening to, but I might allow for the possibility that you're not completely stupid. But if you don't even understand that you're using the word in a way that's completely at odds with its real meaning, you can literally go step in front of a bus right now.
post #76607 of 86349
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Blue and green

Probably responding to the zeitgeist by going for a more "natural" look. I mean, who ever heard of blue food or green food in nature?
post #76608 of 86349
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Yeah, there's an informal definition for "irregardless", too. Which is just another way of saying some dickhead on the internet has memorialized the fact that a lot of morons don't even know what the hell they're saying.

If you're one of the 3% of the population who know what the real definition is and are using the word in the "alternative" way with a sense or irony or at least awareness, I'll cut you a little slack. I'll probably still think you're a douche who's not worth listening to, but I might allow for the possibility that you're not completely stupid. But if you don't even understand that you're using the word in a way that's completely at odds with its real meaning, you can literally go step in front of a bus right now.

post #76609 of 86349
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

that was the irony

or was it

As was my comment. Maybe.
post #76610 of 86349
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Yeah, there's an informal definition for "irregardless", too. Which is just another way of saying some dickhead on the internet has memorialized the fact that a lot of morons don't even know what the hell they're saying.

If you're one of the 3% of the population who know what the real definition is and are using the word in the "alternative" way with a sense or irony or at least awareness, I'll cut you a little slack. I'll probably still think you're a douche who's not worth listening to, but I might allow for the possibility that you're not completely stupid. But if you don't even understand that you're using the word in a way that's completely at odds with its real meaning, you can literally go step in front of a bus right now.

i laughed hard at your last line

i'm a douchebag and i fully accept it. honestly speaking i dont use the informal definitions but i think informal definitions are still legit definitions.

dictionary writers tend to look at statistics for word usage in print and make a decision based off that and usage panel surveys. social perception is that informal definitions are for idiots but eventually perception will change and it will be legitimate. irony is worse than literally cuz "idiots" like F. Scott Fitzgerald have been using it wrong for much longer

i guess i give dictionaries more credit than most people

words change meaning completely over time and a lot of times it happens when the informal definition supplant the formal one and the formal one becomes outdated.

my favorite example is the word nice. it went from ignorant or clumsy (12c latin and old french) to timid (13c) to fussy (14c) to precise (15c) to agreeable (17c) to kind (18c). is nice in the sense of agreeable then the wrong usage of the word?


oddly i never talk about this offline, but then again i've never met many vocabulary conservatives offline
post #76611 of 86349
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

i laughed hard at your last line

i'm a douchebag and i fully accept it. honestly speaking i dont use the informal definitions but i think informal definitions are still legit definitions.

dictionary writers tend to look at statistics for word usage in print and make a decision based off that and usage panel surveys. social perception is that informal definitions are for idiots but eventually perception will change and it will be legitimate. irony is worse than literally cuz "idiots" like F. Scott Fitzgerald have been using it wrong for hundreds of years.

words change meaning completely over time and a lot of times it happens when the informal definition supplant the formal one and the formal one becomes outdated.

my favorite example is the word nice. it went from ignorant or clumsy (12c latin and old french) to timid (13c) to fussy (14c) to precise (15c) to agreeable (17c) to kind (18c). is nice in the sense of agreeable then the wrong usage of the word?

No, I totally get that language generally, and the meaning of specific words as well, are dynamic. And my reaction is of course about 90% contrived and 10% smug. But to the extent my trolling has an element of truth, ignorance -- especially persistent willful ignorance -- does bug me. If someone is using one of those words in a way that makes clear they don't even know that their usage is informal or non-standard, it grates on me. And I'll probably judge them (not that they should care). "Irregardless" is a particularly stupid one because it suggests to me that the person doesn't even know what the fuck they're saying. At least with "irony" or "karma" they're using a real word, and in most instances even if their usage is sloppy and not entirely on point, they're probably using it in a way that has some conceptual relationship to the real meaning. As I said, "irregardless" is just retarded.
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

No, I totally get that language generally, and the meaning of specific words as well, are dynamic. And my reaction is of course about 90% contrived and 10% smug. But to the extent my trolling has an element of truth, ignorance -- especially persistent willful ignorance -- does bug me. If someone is using one of those words in a way that makes clear they don't even know that their usage is informal or non-standard, it grates on me. And I'll probably judge them (not that they should care). "Irregardless" is a particularly stupid one because it suggests to me that the person doesn't even know what the fuck they're saying. At least with "irony" or "karma" they're using a real word, and in most instances even if their usage is sloppy and not entirely on point, they're probably using it in a way that has some conceptual relationship to the real meaning. As I said, "irregardless" is just retarded.

Is this an intentional attack on our own L'incsy? I won't stand for that.
post #76613 of 86349
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

Is this an intentional attack on our own L'incsy? I won't stand for that.

Sorry, but that guy's utter lack of self-awareness is a problem.
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You reactionaries need to realize that languages are living and words mean what most people believe them to mean. 

post #76615 of 86349
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Originally Posted by ethanm View Post

You reactionaries need to realize that languages are living and words mean what most people believe them to mean. 

Doesn't mean those people aren't shitheads, though.

post #76616 of 86349
If Boy George is wrong, I don't want to be right.
post #76617 of 86349
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Sorry, but that guy's utter lack of self-awareness is a problem.


This naked aggression shall not stand. Team L'incsy!!!
post #76618 of 86349
True story when I was a youngster I always wanted to get the new albums by Culture Club, which put my family into condition of worried that I was not the way I was supposed to be, if you get my drift.
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Originally Posted by L'Incandescent View Post

True story when I was a youngster I always wanted to get the new albums by Culture Club, which put my family into condition of worried that I was not the way I was supposed to be, if you get my drift.

I'm extremely surprised by that information.
post #76620 of 86349
I'm disappointed that your family made that assumption. Just because a youngster enjoys the music of a cross-dresser, doesn't mean that he's going to grow up doing radical things like wearing pink pants
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