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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

I don't think I'd take anything of value to Brazil, especially Sao Paulo.


People drive round in drop top lambos going to malls with mono brand patek etc shops.
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

People drive round in drop top lambos going to malls with mono brand patek etc shops.

I'm happy for them, but I still wouldn't do it.
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I think it depends on the area, jardins etc seem very safe.



Completely unrelated I made a great Foo joke in the Toj thread and it got no thumbs, philistines.
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

I think it depends on the area, jardins etc seem very safe.



Completely unrelated I made a great Foo joke in the Toj thread and it got no thumbs, philistines.

Just be patient, you'll definitely get your thumbs by 2016, or if not then probably pretty soon after.
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I'm so glad the ToJ I ordered at the end actually showed up in a semi-reasonable amount of time...
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

If you walked into my company and asked to talk to HR or manager you would get escorted off of the premises.

If you walked into my company and asked to talk to HR or manager I'd say "sure, talk."

Like a foo.gif
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Also false. But since you've repeatedly told us about your mastery of statistics, your made up numbers should probably carry the day.

Do you work in HR or something? I have no doubt that people in charge of HR think they're doing a good job of it. I acknowledge that hiring is critically important.

99% is an extrapolation of my experience. My experience is based on working at four separate very large top tier financial companies where human capital is the business. HR's energies appeared to be mostly devoted to onboarding. Their usefulness in hiring was close to nil. We typically go AROUND them.

The 99% also reflects commentary from everyone I've ever heard talk about HR.

Can it be done well? Yes. Do some companies do it well? Surely. Do I think most companies hire so-so people in HR that phone it in and rely on digitzied search terms to go through resumes? Yep.
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post


Just be patient, you'll definitely get your thumbs by 2016, or if not then probably pretty soon after.

I think the joke was lost on them.



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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

Distorb is to bodies, what foo is to heads foo.gif
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

I think the joke was lost on them.

Wasn't very funny. Hence the no thumbs up.
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My success rate (defined as getting at least a phone interview) applying online: 1 out of 76. Success rate when I managed to find an actual human being to apply to 3/5.

I hope to never have to apply for another job again. Come on tenure, kick in already.
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Originally Posted by archetypal_yuppie View Post

Do you work in HR or something? I have no doubt that people in charge of HR think they're doing a good job of it.

99% is an extrapolation of my experience. My experience is based on working at four separate very large top tier financial companies where human capital is the business. HR's energies appeared to be mostly devoted to onboarding. Their usefulness in hiring was close to nil. We typically go AROUND them.

The 99% also reflects commentary from everyone I've ever heard talk about HR.

Can it be done well? Yes. Do some companies do it well? Surely. Do I think most companies hire so-so people in HR that phone it in and rely on digitzied search terms to go through resumes? Yep.

No, I don't work in HR.
99% isn't an "extrapolation". It's a an attempt to sidestep being called out on having made a categorical statement that is obviously false. Also, only a moron or a child "extrapolates" from limited personal experience to categorical, universal generalities.
You're a big fan of pendantry and precision when it comes to everyone else's statements. Perhaps you should focus more on your own.
And if some companies do it well, then it's clearly not true, as you suggested, that applying online is a useless exercise.
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Originally Posted by archetypal_yuppie View Post

Do you work in HR or something? I have no doubt that people in charge of HR think they're doing a good job of it. I acknowledge that hiring is critically important.

99% is an extrapolation of my experience. My experience is based on working at four separate very large top tier financial companies where human capital is the business. HR's energies appeared to be mostly devoted to onboarding. Their usefulness in hiring was close to nil. We typically go AROUND them.

The 99% also reflects commentary from everyone I've ever heard talk about HR.

Can it be done well? Yes. Do some companies do it well? Surely. Do I think most companies hire so-so people in HR that phone it in and rely on digitzied search terms to go through resumes? Yep.

"Most" companies aren't gigantic organizations.

Sub-200 person firms aren't as prone to having back hole application websites and inept HR drones that have to resort to search terms to sift through thousands of resumes. I'm not saying there aren't 100 person firms who get boatloads of applicants, but the majority don't. Heck, my office alone is bigger than that and I bet someone takes a serious look at every resume that comes into our firm's website. I also doubt that we have a ton of unqualified yahoos submitting their resumes...some internet start up everyone has heard of probably gets a ton of shit to sift through.
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I work for a Fortune 500 company, arguably one of the top in my industry and there's no way for managers to go around the HR hiring process. It is impossible. Also, it is impossible to walk in and give a resume. The only way you could possibly get the manager's attention is if you know somebody and they can put you in contact with them. Still the process for hiring is very stupid and structured and even if the manager knows who they are going to hire they have to go through the process, interview a bunch of people, take detailed notes and score based on some HR 101 Rubric. Unless your manager knows you through somebody any attempt to circumvent this you are going to appear either desperate, or very annoying.
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post


Completely unrelated I made a great Foo joke in the Toj thread and it got no thumbs, philistines.

I actually don't get the "Foo thing" either. There are a lot of holes in my knowledge of SF lore. shog[1].gif
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We are far from Fortune 500 but if one of my managers went around the HR onboarding process I would have their head on a platter. There is a whole background check, license verification, fingerprint, etc. process before an offer is made. Following proper HR P&P keeps the law suits away.
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