Things That Are Bothering You, Got You All Hibbeldy-Jibbeldy, or just downright pissed, RIGHT NOW!

MrG · Feb 23, 2012

Kid Nickels said:
good one... my lips get dry in the winter so I certainly use it but am self-conscious of looking too **** while doing it..
Liam you have a great sense of humor... that e-cig pic reminds me of some crazy William Burroughs type **** and it's awesome Ed made you his avatar
I'll never understand this. It's not like you just wake up one day and "holy ****, I'm 70 lbs overweight!". Sure I like to overindulge on excellent food on special occasions, but the next day always feel like I must get back to a balanced diet. How people eat that **** meal after meal, day after day is completely flabbergasting to me. I was stocking up at CostCo last Saturday and there is this family (mom, dad, 2 daughters about 10ish and 13ish) and of course ALL are ridiculously overweight. The 10 year old probably weighed as much or more than I do. I took a look in their cart and it's filled with chips, frozen pizza, peanut butter crackers, hot dogs/sausage, soda... you name it artificial crap. I looked at my cart: fruit, hummus, pork tenderloin, romaine lettuce, unsalted almonds, tuna, olive oil... you get the idea.

In my mind, this is extremely close to child abuse/neglect.

patrickBOOTH · Feb 23, 2012

So about 2 months ago I was sitting at my local cafe facing the window reading a book. This girl comes in and wants me to sign a waiver of some sort so she can use my picture in some school project. I told her only if I can get a copy of the photo. She said it wouldn't be a problem and she took down my email address. Anyway, she is from San Fran and was only visiting. I never get the picture, which I am not surprised, similar things have happened. Well Sunday I am walking down the street and the same girl sees me and stops me because she has a picture of me and she lost my email and at this point I totally forgot about it. She was excited because she was only in town for the weekend. I gave her my email again. Still no photo. *****.

Kid Nickels · Feb 23, 2012

MrG said:
In my mind, this is extremely close to child abuse/neglect.

I can't disagree. Can you imagine the future health problems they will have from ingrained habits such as these? it's seriously f'd up.

patrickBOOTH · Feb 23, 2012

MrG said:
In my mind, this is extremely close to child abuse/neglect.

I think it was over the summer I posted an article in Current Events where somewhere a child was taken away from the parents because she was so obese at such a young age. There was talk about making some law, or something.

JayJay · Feb 23, 2012

patrickBOOTH said:
I mean don't get me wrong, I am not the healthiest person by any means, but ******* pizza, chips, fried chicken and hamburgers are standard fare in this cafeteria. On top of it all they put poster all over about being healthy, taking the stairs, then they increased our insurance premiums, and gave us shittier insurance plans because it is getting expensive. Well stop feeding the masses ******* junk food during the day, maybe that would help.

I have many options for lunch where I work, and they're all terrible. Lots of fat, sugar, and carbs. Even the supposedly healthy options are not so healthy. :fu:

patrickBOOTH · Feb 23, 2012

Kid Nickels said:
I can't disagree. Can you imagine the future health problems they will have from ingrained habits such as these? it's seriously f'd up.

With Obamacare, who cares how unhealthy you are!

patrickBOOTH · Feb 23, 2012

JayJay said:
I have many options for lunch where I work, and they're all terrible. Lots of fat, sugar, and carbs. Even the supposedly healthy options are not so healthy.

See, I work in a great area in NYC, but many people don't take the healthiest options. The healthiest options are all not too cheap either.

Piobaire · Feb 23, 2012

Douglas said:
Piobaire said:

Video or GTFO.

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That's me, on top, with the sharp teeth.

That's just not how I pictured you.

MrG · Feb 23, 2012

Kid Nickels said:
I can't disagree. Can you imagine the future health problems they will have from ingrained habits such as these? it's seriously f'd up.

Yup, and it's not just the concerns for later in life - there are kids who are having obesity-related problems during their childhood. It's so bad with some kids now that they're ending up with adult-onset diabetes as children.

I find the notion that the government can take a child from its parents over weight to be very uncomfortable, but it wouldn't take a whole lot to convince me it can be justified in some cases.

patrickBOOTH said:
I think it was over the summer I posted an article in Current Events where somewhere a child was taken away from the parents because she was so obese at such a young age. There was talk about making some law, or something.

I don't know if it was your article or one I read elsewhere, but I've heard of this. In the case I'm remembering the mother had repeatedly been warned and still didn't do anything to fix it. Terrible story.

munchausen · Feb 23, 2012

People who want kids taken away from their parents for stuff like this have no idea what a cesspool the foster care system is. Unless the kid is being molested or injured, they are better off with their parents.

patrickBOOTH · Feb 23, 2012

In the article that I posted I believe the child just went to live with her aunt.

MrG · Feb 23, 2012

munchausen said:
People who want kids taken away from their parents for stuff like this have no idea what a cesspool the foster care system is. Unless the kid is being molested or injured, they are better off with their parents.

You can't conceive of a time when it would be appropriate to take a child away from its parents over the child's weight? If the kid ends up with all sorts of medical problems due to weight, isn't there at least a compelling argument that the child is being injured due to parental behavior?

I admit I hate the idea, and it would have to be an extreme case. Moreover I'm not certain there could ever actually be a case where I think it's justified, but I am willing to say I'm not altogether convinced that there is no context in which I could find it appropriate. This is even more true when there are options other than foster care.

munchausen · Feb 23, 2012

MrG said:
You can't conceive of a time when it would be appropriate to take a child away from its parents over the child's weight? If the kid ends up with all sorts of medical problems due to weight, isn't there at least a compelling argument that the child is being injured due to parental behavior?
I admit I hate the idea, and it would have to be an extreme case. Moreover I'm not certain there could ever actually be a case where I think it's justified, but I am willing to say I'm not altogether convinced that there is no context in which I could find it appropriate. This is even more true when there are options other than foster care.

Not really, no. I think the state already interferes too much with parent-child relationships. It's bad parenting but if we start taking away kids from every bad parent then we've got the state raising everyone.

I used to work for a children's shelter and while I heard a lot of really ****** stories, the worse were inevitably from foster homes. I realize there are good foster parents, but there are also a lot of crooks who do it for government money and treat the kids worse than livestock. And don't get me started on group homes and shelters.

MrG · Feb 23, 2012

Dear My Boss,

When you come to me and get a little snippy because I didn't edit in some piece of information you want on a document submitted by another department, and I say "they explain that in paragraph two," please don't tell me they don't when all I have to do is read paragraph two to confirm I'm correct. Seriously, this isn't rocket science, it's right there in black and white.

Your Faithful Bureaucrat,
MrG

MrG · Feb 23, 2012

munchausen said:
Not really, no. I think the state already interferes too much with parent-child relationships. It's bad parenting but if we start taking away kids from every bad parent then we've got the state raising everyone.
I used to work for a children's shelter and while I heard a lot of really ****** stories, the worse were inevitably from foster homes. I realize there are good foster parents, but there are also a lot of crooks who do it for government money and treat the kids worse than livestock. And don't get me started on group homes and shelters.

Interesting.

I do agree that there's too much state intervention in parenting, but I also feel like dooming your child to health problems because of their weight could call for the "authorities" to step in.

That said, I don't feel that strongly about it, it's just something I think I could justify philosophically. You're definitely more experienced in this regard than I am, so maybe there's something to the idea that state interference is always going to be worse.

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