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post #1 of 9
4/11/12 at 1:45am
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So I'm in Thailand (Bangkok and Chang Mai) this week. Want to get some ties made. However, I want to see the silk before I order. Any recommendations? I appreciate quality but my target price is $75 or so, maybe a bit more for 6/7 fold. Hobert is excluded because he doesn't have a store here apparently...

Also maybe a scarf for my mother while I'm here, but I can go somewhere else for that if need be,
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post #2 of 9
4/11/12 at 3:34am
You can save it with your appreciation of quality with $75 tie and demanding for 6/7 fold
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post #3 of 9
4/11/12 at 11:46am
For the amount you are willing to spend, you'll probably be happier to order swatches from Hober (so you can see the colors and the silk) and then get them made. In my experience, Hober's fabrics are top notch - I've had tailors in New York compliment me on the ties and the finishing. The regular Thai tailors really aren't up to the Hober's level of workmanship and the retail shops like Jim Thompson, while offering very nice silks don't offer custom construction.

Just my 2 cents.
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post #4 of 9
4/11/12 at 2:51pm
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post #5 of 9
4/11/12 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted by eotm View Post

So I'm in Thailand (Bangkok and Chang Mai) this week. Want to get some ties made. However, I want to see the silk before I order. Any recommendations? I appreciate quality but my target price is $75 or so, maybe a bit more for 6/7 fold. Hobert is excluded because he doesn't have a store here apparently...

Also maybe a scarf for my mother while I'm here, but I can go somewhere else for that if need be,

eotm,

There are no bricks and mortar stores in Thailand offering luxury custom made ties. There are a few big name European brands with ready made ties but the prices are usually no lower than back home.

Thai silk is beautiful and you can find lots of ties below your price point that are already made.

Jim Thompson has some very beautiful silk but their ties are made for the tourist market: polyester interlinings (not wool) quick construction...

A scarf for your mother is a very good idea silk from the province of Surin is very special with complex weaving by hand.

Chiang Mai is much smaller than Bangkok and will have far fewer choices in terms of silk, but is a more easy going city so more relaxing to shop in.

Remember the Songkran holidays are coming up so there may be delays in what your custom tailors promise you.

Have fun on your trip.
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post #6 of 9
4/11/12 at 5:05pm
G'day Mr. Hober.

Just a quick question: can you know the type of interlining without opening the tie? (particularly useful when in front of the seller)
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[...] has some very beautiful silk but their ties are made for the tourist market: polyester interlinings (not wool) quick construction...
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post #7 of 9
4/11/12 at 5:26pm
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G'day Mr. Hober.

Just a quick question: can you know the type of interlining without opening the tie? (particularly useful when in front of the seller)
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Originally Posted by Sam Hober View Post

[...] has some very beautiful silk but their ties are made for the tourist market: polyester interlinings (not wool) quick construction...

G'day Elegantly Wasted,

Typically no, you need to see the interlining.

Almost all luxury ties will have good quality wool interlinings.

Low end ties will normally not use wool interlinings although there are exceptions as an example some Chinese ties have very low end wool interlinings which are better than polyester but not nearly as nice as the best Italian interlinings
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post #8 of 9
4/11/12 at 5:50pm
Thank you for the quick answer.

As expected, it is not possible to know without opening the tie.
I guess it is back to relying on the product's description (in the rare cases when the interlining is mentioned), or references from previous customers.

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G'day Elegantly Wasted,
Typically no, you need to see the interlining.
Almost all luxury ties will have good quality wool interlinings.
Low end ties will normally not use wool interlinings although there are exceptions as an example some Chinese ties have very low end wool interlinings which are better than polyester but not nearly as nice as the best Italian interlinings
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post #9 of 9
4/11/12 at 9:58pm
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So after visiting jim thompson I'm starting to understand why thai silk is more used for womens stuff. Its very vivid and pops. I was seriously considering picking up a tie, but I really do abuse them and so lining is important.

Any good rtw tie stores here. The high end department stores sell the same brands as back home (although I haven't seen hermes yet). I'm looking mostly for thick woven ties that make powerful knots but are still luxurious to replace the weak collection of screenprint ties that I bought before understanding that a nice suit look like shit with a cheap tie.
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