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Why buy very high quality BLACK dress shoes?

post #1 of 92
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I don't own any shoes better than Allen Edmonds but am thinking about moving up to Edward Green level. It seems that one advantage of shoes in this price range in the patina of the leather, but getting black shoes (although useful for me) would seem negate this advantage? Allen Edmonds already can last a long time and be resoled so what would the advantage of very high quality black shoes be - the shape of the last, knowing you have very well made shoes, or what? 

post #2 of 92
If this question is being asked, I would strongly consider taking baby steps up the ladder to Edward Green.
post #3 of 92
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What baby steps would you recommend?

post #4 of 92
You need to read more on this forum.
post #5 of 92
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Originally Posted by heidegger View Post

What baby steps would you recommend?

Crockett & Jones, Carmina, etc.
post #6 of 92
Are you happy with your black AEs? If yes, end of discussion.
post #7 of 92
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

Crockett & Jones, Carmina, etc.

+1.

Or save yourself the time/cost of this step and go straight to EG. You'll understand it out when you get there. Either way.
post #8 of 92
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Originally Posted by heidegger View Post

I don't own any shoes better than Allen Edmonds but am thinking about moving up to Edward Green level. It seems that one advantage of shoes in this price range in the patina of the leather, but getting black shoes (although useful for me) would seem negate this advantage? Allen Edmonds already can last a long time and be resoled so what would the advantage of very high quality black shoes be - the shape of the last, knowing you have very well made shoes, or what? 

Or you could just get some brown A-Es and let an honest patina develop through use and multiple polishings.

Sator once posted an interesting comparison between a pair of A-E Park Avenues and their EG counterparts. I think most unbiased observers would have concluded there really wasn't much difference between them, certainly not enough to warrant the huge price differential.
post #9 of 92
^This

Edward Green makes a fantastic shoe, but the differences between them and AE arent directly proportional to the price difference. I would second you taking a look at Crockett and Jones or Grenson as an intermediate step.
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Originally Posted by maxnharry View Post

^This
Edward Green makes a fantastic shoe, but the differences between them and AE arent directly proportional to the price difference. I would second you taking a look at Crockett and Jones or Grenson as an intermediate step.

Why Grenson? I would personally put C&J and Trickers or Cheaney (Imperial range)
post #11 of 92
Better shoes has better polish, thicker leather, softer wearing

You simply can't save money for this

p.s. for black dress shoes, you might work in court so that will be a necessity
post #12 of 92

just bought a alden black calfskin balmoral captoe.  my own motives...  American made, hand crafted inhouse with certain production standards.  not to say alden are the only shoes which meet those criteria, but they are among the top of what I saw.

post #13 of 92
I have Alden captoes that I really like, but they just don't compare style-wise with my C&Js, let alone my EGs.
post #14 of 92
I agree completely. Black shoes above a certain point (say C&J benchgrade) offer ZERO additional value to me, so I just don't buy them.

As someone mentioned, if you're happy with Allen Edmonds, why bother getting a more expensive shoe?
post #15 of 92
I approach the issue like the tuxedo. Why buy when you can rent?

Might as well get the very best for those items that are certainly seldom used.

Therefore my first bespoke purchase was plain black captoe
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