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post #16 of 92
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Originally Posted by Violinist
That's ridiculous. In fact, I'd be so incredibly embarassed to know anyone who puts "PhD" on any plain sight document...

I think it's far more gauche for a physician to call him or herself "Doctor". I think Ph.D. belongs on a business card and anywhere a physician would put "Dr." (incorrectly).
post #17 of 92
In the US, it also varies by region. In some areas the Ph.D. is admired on the card. In other places it is considered naive and uppity and embarrassing.
post #18 of 92
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Originally Posted by Isaac Mickle
In the US, it also varies by region. In some areas the Ph.D. is admired on the card. In other places it is considered naive and uppity and embarrassing.

This is true and it also depends on the University. At technical schools (RPI, MIT) it is more common for a Professor to go by the title Doctor, while at liberal arts schools it is more common to use the title Professor---at least in my experience.

As for whether it is used at labs like JPL, etc, I find that it is rather common to have Ph.D. on one's card. This seems to be the norm at DoD labs. On the other hand, if I recall correctly, it isn't common at, e.g., LANL.

In any case, I follow the lead of my colleagues and put Ph.D. after my name (with the periods, which I also think looks better).
post #19 of 92
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Originally Posted by kwiteaboy
I think it's far more gauche for a physician to call him or herself "Doctor". I think Ph.D. belongs on a business card and anywhere a physician would put "Dr." (incorrectly).

I work with physicians on a daily basis and they usually refer to themselves as Doctor verbally. I'm pretty sure most people don't put the full word Doctor on their correspondence, as you said, they'll likely put M.D. after their name, but this is also to distinguish between D.O., D.D.S., D.P.M, D.V.M., O.D., and M.D. since there are many different types of "doctors"
post #20 of 92
My argument is that those holding "M.D." degrees aren't doctors at all, but rather physicians. The title "Doctor" is an academic title reserved for those at the height of education, that being, the Doctor of Philosophy degree and the dissertation production/defense that goes with it, so calling someone with an M.D. "Doctor" is giving him or her more credit that he or she has earned.

I'm gonna be such an ass when I've got those three letters..
post #21 of 92
I work in a university, and have Ph.D. friends. Basically, if you put Ph.D. on your letterheads, you are more likely to be an asshole. Most my friends settled for a simple M.S. because they were out quicker and made more money than a Ph.D., who is destined for Academia.

Kinda goes like the old saying "Those who get A's teach. And those who got C's work for the ones who got B's."

I only have a B.S., but if I got anything, it would be an M.S.
post #22 of 92
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Originally Posted by Violinist
That's ridiculous. In fact, I'd be so incredibly embarassed to know anyone who puts "PhD" on any plain sight document...

Many individuals seeking psychological services are looking for "psychologists" Ph.D.'s and Psy.D.'s over MS level "therapists." In this situation, a distinction is necessary as some therapists were grandfathered the label of "psychologist" and do not hold a doctorate degree.

Your "embarassment" reveals your intellectual inadequacy. Don't be so threatened by others with more education than yourself.

MrR
post #23 of 92
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Originally Posted by MrRogers
Your "embarassment" reveals your intellectual inadequacy. Don't be so threatened by others with more education than yourself.

MrR

So you'll put Psy.D after your name, I take it, in case people want to see a Ph.D? Clearly he didn't think about the distinction between therapists and psychologists, possibly because it's the only relevant one (at least that I can think of). I think your attitude is unfounded here.
post #24 of 92
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Originally Posted by matadorpoeta
not all professors have a ph.d.

it is a common complaint at many colleges that undergrad classes, especially lower division ones, are being taught by professors with only a master's degree.
I've heard that certain professors at Ivy League schools simply use their Graduate Assistants as teachers.
post #25 of 92
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
I've heard that certain professors at Ivy League schools simply use their Graduate Assistants as teachers.

At Columbia, grad students mostly taught the most basic required core curriculum courses, and most of them were very good. In higher-level classes, the professors did the teaching and the graduate assistants were exactly that, assistants.
post #26 of 92
Ph.D., PhD? To what universities do you guys go? D.Phil. or DPhil?
post #27 of 92
I have a remarkable number of business cards from academics. Nearly to the person, the Ph.D. is not put anywhere. If you do research in a technical field in at a professorial or even senior scientist level, a Ph.D. is a prerequisite, nothing more. Actually, pretty much everyone from a research associate on up has a Ph.D.

The only exceptions I've seen, in which the Ph.D. designation is printed on the cards, are from professors at very small, rather obscure liberal arts colleges and from clinicians.

In the Boston area, even lecturers or adjunct professors have Ph.D.'s for the most part. (Adjunct professors are temporary staff making some extra cash while looking for a permanent position.) However, in the Boston area, and in Cambridge in particular, you throw a stone in a random direction, and the likelihood is that you'll knock a Ph.D. upside the head.
post #28 of 92
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Originally Posted by LA Guy
However, in the Boston area, and in Cambridge in particular, you throw a stone in a random direction, and the likelihood is that you'll knock a Ph.D. upside the head.

Is that what you do for fun Fok?

Jon.
post #29 of 92
"If everybody in the hood had a Ph.D, You'd say that doctor flip that burger hella good for me." The Coup - "Hip 2 Tha Skeme"
post #30 of 92
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Originally Posted by kwiteaboy
My argument is that those holding "M.D." degrees aren't doctors at all, but rather physicians. The title "Doctor" is an academic title reserved for those at the height of education, that being, the Doctor of Philosophy degree and the dissertation production/defense that goes with it, so calling someone with an M.D. "Doctor" is giving him or her more credit that he or she has earned.

I'm gonna be such an ass when I've got those three letters..


You're well on your way!

Unfortunately, the reality is that physicians are (properly) referred to as doctors, and Ph.D.'s who call themselves "Doctor" are viewed as pompous boobs
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