Originally Posted by Piobaire
I followed those links. Did not see a reference to "formal" kilts but you are correct they are calling something a "casual" kilt. I've never come across that in my life nor anywhere else. There is a traditional kilt, which I think you are referring to as "formal," and then there are a bunch of other things with less material or other materials that are not traditional kilts. Also, wtf are you doing with six kilts? Do you wear one daily? I mean, even when I was busy piping, I had my personal kilt and my band kilt and that was it. You must be collecting them for some reason.
Oh, and just FWIW, my personal and band kilt were both made in Scotland, etc, yada, yada, yada too. My pipes were bespoken and include custom silver engraving and dedication plaque to me on the bass drone. I can get fancy shit from Scotland too.
I wouldn't say I'm a daily kilt wearer but from the spring to the fall I wear a kilt when a person would normally wear dressier pants.. a movie, dinner, pub, club, that sort of thing.. why? well if I had to dig down to the nub of it, it's because women love them and I get plenty of attention from the ladies when I'm wearing one.. attention that I don't get wearing other clothes.. they are basically chick magnets.. beside that I just like them.. why 6? 4 are the various versions of my family tartan (Johnstone), one is Canada's national tartan and one is black.. the various shades and colours of each tartan give me a range suitable to coordinate with anything I want to wear.. black is for when I want to wear patterns as most patterns clash with tartan.
as for the kilts themselves, they are traditional kilts.. fringed A-line aprons, knife pleated to the sett, 3 leather straps with metal buckles.. they are not 'fashion' kilts or utility kilts.. they are traditional in every way.. but only one is what is called a formal kilt.. it is meant to wear with formal attire.. they are higher waisted so a Price Charlie (or variant) and waist coat can be worn and not show any shirt when sitting or bending over.. the belt if you wear one will sit above the hip on your natural waist with a 1/2" or so of tartan showing above.. the casual kilt is shorter and suits other less formal clothing.. it ends at the navel and the belt sits on the hip bones like when wearing a pair of pants.. this looks better almost all the time as you don't have that "old man" look with your kilt up under your armpits..
best way to think of it is the difference between slacks and a blazer vs a tuxedo.. both are traditional men's wear but the blazer is not considered formal attire..
from the Scotsweb site..
The casual kilt is often thought of as a cut-down and reduced price version of the real thing. But it is more than that. This garment almost always uses a shorter length of fabric than a full traditional eight yard kilt. But you could in fact have an 8-yard length made to a casual cut. There is another important distinction. A casual kilt will usually be cut to the same waistline as trousers. This sets it apart from the traditional kilt, which rises a few inches above the hips, adding to the inherent impressiveness of that garment. Conversely the lower cut makes this one more, well, casual. Being less imposing can be a positive, lending it a greater air of informality, for contexts where this is desirable. The look arguably lends itself better to fashion wear, where the traditional high-waisted look may feel less appropriate.
It is probably not the first choice for formal occasions. But a casual kilt will be fine for many situations, and may indeed be the best idea for a number of uses.