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3/15/13 at 1:44pm

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All the ties look beautiful, but brown is only versatile in theory. In practice, it's considered a strange tie for traditional business.

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3/15/13 at 4:51pm

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Thanks for the kind words. To your last point well I disagree. Your assuming that my clients (and me) work in a place where traditional business dress is required. I don't personally and a lot of my clients don't either, they wear ties because they want to, not because they have to. I will also say that in the 70 or so ties I've released over the last year, the brown ones have not only been my favourite but have had the best sell through second only to navy blue.

A picture says a thousand words, so I'll post how I wore it yesterday and as you can see it fits in to a CBD mould very well.

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3/15/13 at 5:09pm

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I was about to post something similar. What do you mean by traditional business? Is your advice country-specific?

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3/15/13 at 5:37pm

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I was going to say that the vast majority of people on this forum are doing their very best NOT to dress like the usual.

The most common "business" attire I see is square ties hush puppie type shoes, ill fitting shirts with ties they have been persuaded to wear.

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3/15/13 at 7:01pm

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I work in probably the most conservative profession and I doubt anyone would pick you up for a dark brown tie.

The ties are beautiful Jason, thanks for getting them out to me so early!

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3/15/13 at 8:10pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wishiwasricher

What would you wear chocolate brown with Gezza?

Brown ties go beautifully with mid gray suits and pale blue shirts.

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3/16/13 at 11:55am

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Who would wear a brown tie to a job interview? Or, for that matter, an evening event? [half-serious] New thread with poll about owning/wearing brown ties, anyone? So, yes, a brown tie's utility is limited (compared to, say, navy). Probably for such reasons, brown ties surely are harder to find at retail. Hence, they might actually draw fans of them to retailers that sell them. Just stating (likely) facts. No offense intended.

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3/16/13 at 2:17pm

Gerry Nelson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant

Who would wear a brown tie to a job interview? Or, for that matter, an evening event? [half-serious] New thread with poll about owning/wearing brown ties, anyone? So, yes, a brown tie's utility is limited (compared to, say, navy). Probably for such reasons, brown ties surely are harder to find at retail. Hence, they might actually draw fans of them to retailers that sell them. Just stating (likely) facts. No offense intended.

I believe your statements hold true in certain environments but not universally. Again, what do you mean by traditional business? The two situations you mention above?

By strange, do you mean inappropriate?

The majority of us here are attending job interviews or evening events (where a tie is required) enough for it to be considered of limited versatility. I suspect the people here also don't own a brown tie as their only tie That said, I've interviewed quite a number of people over the years and spoken to others who have conducted interviews themselves and a brown tie doesn't count against a candidate. Of course, this might depend on the industry but I suspect the rules in certain areas of the US corporate world are far more rigid than they are over here. I'm assuming that this is what you're referring to when you mention "traditional business" but please correct me if I'm wrong.

Working at a global Fortune 500 company and dealing with directors and other senior execs on a daily basis over here, you could be wearing a tasteful brown tie day in and day out at work without anyone so much as batting an eyelid.

Here's a few brown ties at retail (which weren't too hard to find - I would say it's always a challenge finding tasteful ties):

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http://www.hawesandcurtis.com/mens-accessories-plain-brown-ref_TIPSA002-C01

http://www.thetiebar.com/categoryPages/All_Ties.asp?categoryIds=31,23,20&optionValueIds=&pg=0&productsPerPage=All

http://vandafineclothing.com/store/neckties/243-brown-blue-spots-in-silk-wool.html

http://vandafineclothing.com/store/neckties/267-brown-blue-checks.html

http://vandafineclothing.com/store/252-espresso-with-blue-flowers.html

http://www.marianorubinacci.net/eshop/product.php?id=282&lang=2

http://www.marianorubinacci.net/eshop/product.php?id=379&lang=2

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/search.jsp?No=0&Ntt=brown+tie&_requestid=86425&N=0&va=t

Mind you, there's bound to be stuff for sale that's not online

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3/16/13 at 3:08pm

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I haven't been to a job interview in 8 years.... Of course I wouldn't wear a brown tie to either of those things, but they consume such a small part of my life, if One was to buy ties based on those 2 things I'd end up with a very boring tie wardrobe (and product line in my case). I think your basing this on your own preferences and what you would advise your clients, which is fine but has little to do with 99% of the rest of the planet.

And Gerry makes a good point that a brown tie (for example) should make up only a small portion of a tie wardrobe.

Let's face it, in 99% of work places in this modern age are brown shoe appropriate, which makes them brown tie appropriate, theres always exceptions to that but they are the exception, not the rule. Hell, most places would just be thankful if a tie was worn at all.

Moving on, my thread isn't the place for this debate, so you start your poll and I'll even vote in it for you.

Cheers

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3/16/13 at 3:22pm

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Yes, I agree! Let's move on to the burgundy/maroon cashmere tie that you're bringing in.

Only a month to go until the trunk show!

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3/16/13 at 4:26pm

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Oh yes the cashmere knits will be very special indeed. 4 colours coming, navy, burgundy, grey and gasp, brown

. Woven by Cariaggi fine yarns, one of Italy's most respected mills that specialises in wool, cashmere and even Vicuna blends.

I don't have much in the way of a teaser apart from the swatches I have. Top one is the burgundy, middle brown and bottom grey. Navy is not show and the other 2 not happening.

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3/16/13 at 4:52pm

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With the exception of (high-priced) Neiman Marcus, those aren't well-known retailers. Which creates an opportunity for sources like Henry Carter. Anyway, moving on.

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3/16/13 at 6:10pm