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post #31 of 54
Yea, so, nobody is going to make fun of you if you keep wearing these suits. Especially if this is your first job wearing suits and perhaps a more entry-level position, it's fine. There will be people around you who look worse in suits. But if you gain an interest in this or want to look sharper for professional reasons, you will be much better served by spending more on each suit, and having fewer suits.

Given that you right shoulder really seems significantly low, you may need to go bespoke to find something that's really great fitting. But this is something that Despos or a tailor or jeffrey d would have to tell you, I don't know how much a RTW jacket could be altered to solve your problems. Where are you located? If you're near Chicago or New York then you've got options available to you. However this will not be cheap. Even if you go with a traveling tailor like Chan, you're still looking at around $2k for a suit. It will be far more valuable than the 6 $300 suits you have already purchased. But the process will take a few months from beginning to end. First figure out if you can get something like a BB jacket off the rack to fit you well enough.
post #32 of 54
To be honest, all of the suit here looks pretty bad. But I don't think people would care enough with your suits at the end of the day

Just save some money and go to a tailor next time
post #33 of 54
i agree, the people would not care if your suits fit properly and if you feel ok in it there is no problem. But one thing that i can say from experience, : " one learns by experience ". If you buy 6 suits and tailor them all, and if it's your first alterations, they won't be perfect and you end up with 6 bad taiored bad fitting suits. if you buy them one by one and tailor them in that case after 2-3 suits, you will understand better what's the best fit/ best alterations for you...
when i started to work, i gave 6 shirts to the tailor for shortening sleeves and all ended up with a little bit short sleeves, i mean they are still ok, but i wish the sleeves were longer 1.5-2 cm... that would be perfect..
post #34 of 54
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

To be honest, all of the suit here looks pretty bad. But I don't think people would care enough with your suits at the end of the day
Just save some money and go to a tailor next time


As I mentioned earlier, I'm a total noob to style.  In fact, I saw so many men wearing suits yesterday and today that they all looked good to me, but I was standing at least 5 feet away from them.  How can one tell of a "good" suit?  The only thing that I can think of is quality -- I'm expect a quality suit to have better fabric and last much longer thank these CK suits, but to my untrained eye, a $200 suit looks the same as a $3000 suit.

post #35 of 54
some very expensive suits will have fabric that is very delicate as well, and will not last many wearings...


quality does not equal longevity.
post #36 of 54
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Originally Posted by intfxdx View Post

i agree, the people would not care if your suits fit properly and if you feel ok in it there is no problem. But one thing that i can say from experience, : " one learns by experience ". If you buy 6 suits and tailor them all, and if it's your first alterations, they won't be perfect and you end up with 6 bad taiored bad fitting suits. if you buy them one by one and tailor them in that case after 2-3 suits, you will understand better what's the best fit/ best alterations for you...
when i started to work, i gave 6 shirts to the tailor for shortening sleeves and all ended up with a little bit short sleeves, i mean they are still ok, but i wish the sleeves were longer 1.5-2 cm... that would be perfect..


I definitely learned from this experience.  I just got back and was able to return those 6 suits before the Nordstrom tailor worked on them.  To play it safe, I only gave him 2 of the 42L suits.  He said the suits were too small on me, especially the pants.  I insisted that I would prefer the 42L look and feel as opposed to the 44L look and feel.  He eventually gave in and said "it's up to you". 

 

I went to another Nordstrom Rack to get their tailor's opinion and he did say it was tight at the jacket because when buttoned, it sort of went up a little, but acceptable.  He said the trouser pockets also had "ears" because it was tight around that area, but again it was acceptable.

 

This has definitely been a learning experience.  Thanks so much everyone.  I hope the trousers come out nice.

post #37 of 54
My suggestion would be to return all those CK suits, take the money and go to Brooks Brothers. They have a number of styles / cuts and are of good quality. Get a plain navy suit, charcoal suit, and a subtle sport coat. You'll be good for a long time with those. Use shirts and ties to change it up and give variety. No one will ever notice you've only got 2 suits and a sport coat if you get creative and switch stuff up. You can add other stuff in a few weeks (linen) as well.

In time you'll know more than you ever wanted about clothing if you continue browsing here.
post #38 of 54
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As I mentioned earlier, I'm a total noob to style.  In fact, I saw so many men wearing suits yesterday and today that they all looked good to me, but I was standing at least 5 feet away from them.  How can one tell of a "good" suit?  The only thing that I can think of is quality -- I'm expect a quality suit to have better fabric and last much longer thank these CK suits, but to my untrained eye, a $200 suit looks the same as a $3000 suit.

:P this is a treacherous path to go down, $$$$.
post #39 of 54
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Originally Posted by Aldehyde View Post

My suggestion would be to return all those CK suits, take the money and go to Brooks Brothers. They have a number of styles / cuts and are of good quality. Get a plain navy suit, charcoal suit, and a subtle sport coat. You'll be good for a long time with those. Use shirts and ties to change it up and give variety. No one will ever notice you've only got 2 suits and a sport coat if you get creative and switch stuff up. You can add other stuff in a few weeks (linen) as well.
In time you'll know more than you ever wanted about clothing if you continue browsing here.


Others in this thread have suggested I get a made-to-measure suit because of my somewhat athletic build.  When I sent it the 2 CK 42L suits earlier today, that was my plan moving forward after I get my new job.  I've never heard of Brooks Brothers, but based on their website, they do not appear to be made-to-measure, but do have a larger selection for different fits.  Are my chances better with a MTM suit that will be around the same price as a Brooks Brothers 1818 suit?  Their website currently shows some deals for $1600 for 2 suits, so I'm assuming I should expect to pay around $800 for a decent quality suit.

 

I remember my local Costco partnering with some company (Graham and something) and sold them for $500 or $800 each.  It was also made-to-measure, but they used some body scanning technology.  Any thoughts on Costco as it can be cheaper depending on the suit?

post #40 of 54
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Others in this thread have suggested I get a made-to-measure suit because of my somewhat athletic build.  When I sent it the 2 CK 42L suits earlier today, that was my plan moving forward after I get my new job.  I've never heard of Brooks Brothers, but based on their website, they do not appear to be made-to-measure, but do have a larger selection for different fits.  Are my chances better with a MTM suit that will be around the same price as a Brooks Brothers 1818 suit?  Their website currently shows some deals for $1600 for 2 suits, so I'm assuming I should expect to pay around $800 for a decent quality suit.

I remember my local Costco partnering with some company (Graham and something) and sold them for $500 or $800 each.  It was also made-to-measure, but they used some body scanning technology.  Any thoughts on Costco as it can be cheaper depending on the suit?

You have to go to the BB store, get measured, etc. for MTM.

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/specialorder/mtm_dress_shirts.tem
post #41 of 54
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Originally Posted by champ49er View Post



As I mentioned earlier, I'm a total noob to style.  In fact, I saw so many men wearing suits yesterday and today that they all looked good to me, but I was standing at least 5 feet away from them.  How can one tell of a "good" suit?  The only thing that I can think of is quality -- I'm expect a quality suit to have better fabric and last much longer thank these CK suits, but to my untrained eye, a $200 suit looks the same as a $3000 suit.

A good suit is generally half or full canvassed as opposed to fused. The jacket is sewn to an interior floating canvas rather than glued. It gives a better shape than fused.
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Others in this thread have suggested I get a made-to-measure suit because of my somewhat athletic build. 

I believe we were suggesting it because of your dropped right shoulder. It doesn't look like you will be able to get properly fitting shoulders on RTW. It's probably the reason your sleeves appear to be different lengths as well. Regardless of the quality of the suit, the most important thing is a good fit.
post #42 of 54

The waist should be taken in, the jacket looks a bit long.

post #43 of 54
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Originally Posted by champ49er View Post


I definitely learned from this experience.  I just got back and was able to return those 6 suits before the Nordstrom tailor worked on them.  To play it safe, I only gave him 2 of the 42L suits.  He said the suits were too small on me, especially the pants.  I insisted that I would prefer the 42L look and feel as opposed to the 44L look and feel.  He eventually gave in and said "it's up to you". 

 

I went to another Nordstrom Rack to get their tailor's opinion and he did say it was tight at the jacket because when buttoned, it sort of went up a little, but acceptable.  He said the trouser pockets also had "ears" because it was tight around that area, but again it was acceptable.

 

This has definitely been a learning experience.  Thanks so much everyone.  I hope the trousers come out nice.



As you look to add to your first two suits, you should try on different brands to find a 42L that fits you better.  I'm roughly the same size as you and there are some brands that do not work for me because the 42L is too small and the 44L too big, which sounds like the situation for your two CK suits.  I've also learned that higher armholes and a slimmer cut are a must for my build, which may or may not be the case for you.  You should also find a good tailor in your city and listen to him/her on what fits you.  This forum is a great resource, but there is only so much they can tell you based on pictures.  You have to do some legwork.

post #44 of 54


It has a boxy cut like the suits I see at Jos. A. Banks. I think you could use some waist suppression and reduce the length of the jacket. I think the 42L fits better. Have you tried a 42R? That charcoal suit fits better but it still looks really boxy. I'm usually a size 42 although I'm only 170lbs. Size 40 fits better around my mid section but the shoulders are too tight. I think I'm a in between size like 41. Do you have the same problem?

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I have a new job starting in a week and I brought 6 new suits to the tailor.  I told him I needed them done before my start date.  I got all the same brand/fit suits in a 44L (I'm 6'0" / 210 lbs).  I'm not sure if it's because I told him I needed 6 suits altered in a week that he said the jacket doesn't need to be taken in.  His reasoning was that the jacket was fine as it is.

 

Since all 6 suits are with him right now, I took these photos with the 7th suit that I'm contemplating on returning.  I'm not sure why my right lower back is shifting, maybe it's my shirt.  Based on these photos, do I need to take in my suit jacket?

 

EDIT:  Please see post #15 to see the grey 42L.  Is this a better fit?

 

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post #45 of 54

the jacket is about 2 inches too long, and the sleeves are about an inch short.

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