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post #706 of 925
thanks

sick right now fighting it sim sitting out a couple days keep it going guys
post #707 of 925
picking it up for you J, 125 today, after a 5 mile run. 37476
post #708 of 925
thanks big dawg icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #709 of 925
80 in half an hour.

Lats are on fire

37556
post #710 of 925
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Originally Posted by Flame View Post

80 in half an hour.
Lats are on fire
37556

Good job Flame! Got 50 yesterday for 37616

I've noticed my biceps have exploded, but still have lagging lats despite using a wide grip. I'm thinking I might need to pre-fatigue my biceps with a set of curls before pullups.
post #711 of 925
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Good job Flame! Got 50 yesterday for 37616
I've noticed my biceps have exploded, but still have lagging lats despite using a wide grip. I'm thinking I might need to pre-fatigue my biceps with a set of curls before pullups.

Is the purpose of pre fatiguing not to help a muscle activate better during the next movement?
post #712 of 925
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Is the purpose of pre fatiguing not to help a muscle activate better during the next movement?

Yep. For example, some people will do a couple tricep exercises before bench pressing to try and work on their chest.
post #713 of 925
I always thought the muscle that was prefatigued was supposed to activate harder not the other way around.
post #714 of 925
No because they fail to do the work so you focus on chest if benching. I don't practice this btw.
post #715 of 925
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post

Good job Flame! Got 50 yesterday for 37616
I've noticed my biceps have exploded, but still have lagging lats despite using a wide grip. I'm thinking I might need to pre-fatigue my biceps with a set of curls before pullups.
One of my friends has massive lats and he uses a belt and 20 kg weight with pullups. May work. I don't believe in pre-fatiguing.
post #716 of 925
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Well the problem is after gaining 45 pounds it's pretty hard to do even bodyweight pullups these days...can get about 12 consecutive and then I'm pooped!
post #717 of 925
dug up a post that i had remembered:
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Yes. Chances are you're failing with pullups, rows, pulldowns because you cannot pull the weight fully into your chest which requires higher utilization of the forearms and biceps (at the bottom of those movements the ratio of back:bicep/forearm is much greater) due to the in decreased leverages of the back. The easiest example would be the pullup. How often do you see someone do a pullup and them only get about half way up? The lats are much more engaged at the bottom of the pullup - and stronger than the biceps/forearm as well as being in a biomechanically advantageous position - which allows them to get to that half way position and it's the biceps/forearms that fail to help get them to the completion of the rep.
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Very very rarely is the back going to tire before biceps unless pre-fatiguing methods or other various "special" methods are used to force it to do that. The back is simply a much larger muscle group and has a much higher work capacity.

really wish that dude LM16 didn't stop posting, he always had something good to say and was pretty accomplished as well. this was in the context of someone doing pullups for their biceps, but it seems to be that pre-fatiguing biceps would just cut down your total reps; based on what LM16 posted it makes sense that flame's friend did well with weighted pullups for his lats.

also, obligatory ironaddicts refence:
http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31364
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If you plan on trying these out, you should always try to include AT LEAST a 3-4 second eccentric followed by a paused stretch count between every rep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNI4ChEWtRs


ROM looks like it would murder your lats
post #718 of 925
Good stuff.

Feeling fucking good, think I'm going to hit it tonight. I only have 8 more months until summer.

These herbal supplements are great, cold was very mild and I only missed 3 days of the gym two of which were needed recovery days anyway lol.
post #719 of 925
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Originally Posted by TKJTG View Post

Good job Flame! Got 50 yesterday for 37616
I've noticed my biceps have exploded, but still have lagging lats despite using a wide grip. I'm thinking I might need to pre-fatigue my biceps with a set of curls before pullups.

Been a good few days:

37616 + 101 + 107 + 110 = 37934 but more importantly, everything in the first 7 sets has been over 10. On one set I hit 15, and probably could have gone a couple more, but did not want to overly fatigue the muscle. Rest day today. Jet, I'm not sure that I can make over 25 a set, unless I lose 10 lbs (which makes a big difference) without losing strength. I can do isolated sets of 20, but 25+ in a quick series of sets... not sure if either muscles or ligaments will allow that.
post #720 of 925
37934 + 27 = 37,961
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