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post #151 of 330
sheesh sorry i didn't recognize a picture of them ( albiet a famous one)

and i like how WvB changed over the years

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post #152 of 330
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MC basically has one universal "good look." Sure, there are variations, but it's more like a few leaves on a single branch.
post #153 of 330
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Originally Posted by Lel View Post

The point that those comments reaffirm that the only really differences between MC and SW&D are philosophical. SW&D is just more open to looks while MC literally is just variations of a single outfit. SW&D doesn't care if jeans are stacking, cuffed, hemmed, if it looks good then it's good. MC will never look past the fact that the jeans are stacked so they reject the outfit entirely because it doesn't conform neatly into a checklist.

you don't get it, sorry.
post #154 of 330

F. Corbera, for tomorrow's comparison, might I suggest this fit from SW&D, taken from today's fits in the WAYWT thread.  Perhaps a side-by-side comparison with one of your own MC fits? 
 

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Maybe I should've gone without the PS... I don't know.  Wore this to a bookstore, then drank some starbucks while listening to a random outdoor country music concert, then picked up some mexican food... and right now I should be working on a paper.  crazy.gif

 

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post #155 of 330
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Originally Posted by F. Corbera View Post

Comparison #3: 03.24.12
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Furo's jeans are cut too wide for his build. The 30s/50s reproduction cut looks too baggy. The proportions of the cuffs are distracting too.

On a tangential note, F Corbera, what jeans model is this? They look good. MC denim done right.

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Edited by jrd617 - 3/26/12 at 12:22am
post #156 of 330
^Perhaps a more reserved pattern would pair better with denim as well.
post #157 of 330
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

you don't get it, sorry.

Excellent rebuttal, as expected.

MC Casual is just too obsessed over preferential details that they can't realize that things like stacking can be changed. GetSmart cuffed his jeans for years and no one ever thought it looked bad on him. The example of Vox(?) shows its possible to hem your jeans to a middle ground, but SW&D prefers stacking.
post #158 of 330
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Originally Posted by jrd617 View Post

On a tangential note, F Corbera, what jeans model is this? They look good. MC denim done right.

KMW 1980 MIJ, I think.
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Originally Posted by afixedpoint View Post

^Perhaps a more reserved pattern would pair better with denim as well.

Yeah, I agree...that fit was more about an experiment on what to do with a difficult gun club pattern on the jacket more than anything else. I might wear a tailored jacket with jeans twice a year.
post #159 of 330
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Originally Posted by Lel View Post

Excellent rebuttal, as expected.
MC Casual is just too obsessed over preferential details that they can't realize that things like stacking can be changed. GetSmart cuffed his jeans for years and no one ever thought it looked bad on him. The example of Vox(?) shows its possible to hem your jeans to a middle ground, but SW&D prefers stacking.

fwiw, i did. you shouldn't expect things, you're not aware of. you tell me that i do not understand stacking, cuffing, hemming and the whole concept of denim. i can tell you, that i'm almost double your age and i've seen more things due to the circumstances. besides, you might not know that there are countries outside of the US, do you?

it's a matter of fact that i do not like stacking and cuffing, i understand it, though. you feel better now? i hope so.

also, i don't have a checklist. what i wore today: dark brown suede sneakers, ludwig reiter from their bowling line. rl jeans, don't ask me which. they fit. black round neck longsleeve cotton shirt. chocolate brown, cotton bomber jacket. can be worn on both sides. dark blue on the inside. do i need a concept for this? no. do i post a picture? no.
post #160 of 330
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Originally Posted by F. Corbera View Post

KMW 1980 MIJ, I think.

would you mind explaining the difference between furo's and your denim, besides the cuffing?
post #161 of 330
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Lel View Post

MC Casual is just too obsessed over preferential details that they can't realize that things like stacking can be changed.

For guys who regularly wear coat and tie, anything without the tie is "casual."

I don't see "casual" as the communicative word for many of the the looks in SW&D since a lot of them are contemporary alternatives to/replacements for coat and tie in the very enivironments (professional or social) in which coat and tie had been pervasively expected in the past.

So, a lot of SW&D is not the casual end of a spectrum that includes old school tailored looks.

Over the years, I would say that the casual looks presented photographically in the MC forum (in the general WAYWRN and in the more recent MC Casual threaks) fall into four groups:

1. Classic Casual. Casual suits and jackets. Looks without jackets but drawn from the classic vocabulary of sportswear, countrywear, and weekend leisure clothes. This group almost entirely went with the wind as the MC forum decapitated itself, but there are guys left here and there who do this. These types of looks have had many years for all rough edges to be knocked off, so when done they look pretty damn good.

2. SW&D Flipovers. Head to toe SW&D looks worn on days off from work; or during the week in professional environments that tolerate both the necktie and sneakers. Think gdl203 or Parker as recently active examples of this. The refinement process for these looks is familiar to all of you active in SW&D.

3. Pitti Sympathizers. You know the looks that I'm talking about. This group isn't as prominent on SF as one might expect, and seems tilted toward members outside of the English-speaking world. They might have a slim presence on SF since it is a difficult look to own in, say, a typical American city or town.

4. MC/SW&D Hybridizers. This is the biggest group right now. I reserve commentary, if any, for the future. My working theory is that a lot of the members in this group are actually guys who dressed casually most of their lives and are coming into circumstances or an age where they have to, or want to, wear coat an tie. So, a lot of college guys who are about to be or are recently graduated. Bros to bows.
post #162 of 330
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

would you mind explaining the difference between furo's and your denim, besides the cuffing?

A real denimhead can explain it better. The KMWs are a slim, straight fit with a mid-rise. They're the same at the knee and at the hem...about 8.25" I think. In that pic, those are still pre-wash, so they would sit less on the boots after their first shrink.

I don't know anything about furo's jeans.
post #163 of 330
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Comparison #4: 03.23-24.12


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post #164 of 330
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Originally Posted by F. Corbera View Post

A real denimhead can explain it better. The KMWs are a slim, straight fit with a mid-rise. They're the same at the knee and at the hem...about 8.25" I think. In that pic, those are still pre-wash, so they would sit less on the boots after their first shrink.
I don't know anything about furo's jeans.

ah ok. many thanks
post #165 of 330
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Originally Posted by F. Corbera View Post

Comparison #4: 03.23-24.12
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i prefer mc greg. it looks more relaxed and less put on, imo.
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