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A Daily "Mens Clothing" and "Streetwear and Denim" Fit Comparison Thread


About six years ago (I can't quite remember exactly when the change occurred), Style Forum was not divided between "Mens Clothing" and "Streetwear and Denim." There was only a single "Clothing Forum."

The original What Are You Wearing Right Now? (WAYWRN) thread, thus, made no distinction among what bias of style or objective in dress a member of SF might have when posting. This absence of distinction also applied, of course, to all of the other clothing threads.

Some viewed this state as cacophony. Some viewed it as opportunity. Most, of course, did not care since the vast majority of SF members are largely passive consumers of other people's posts.

The idea to create a new "Streetwear and Denim" forum out of the Clothing Forum is encapsulated in this thread.

http://www.styleforum.net/t/9644/new-streetwear-forum

Since that time, the steady state of SF has been for a nearly complete division of discussion based on how new members select his (rarely, her, and then often in secret) sub-forum. At any given time, the count of members constructively active in both forums never seems to rise past single digits (note that SF's membership roster is supposedly over 100,000), so tall, deep, and wide is the wall that forum mechanics created.

In cycles that seem the same each time, that wall is breached. In nearly every case, it involves partisans of one "side" deciding "to school" or "troll" the other on the deficiencies, or hilarity, or life-inappropriateness, of the other "side's" clothes.

All train wrecks.

The partisans retreat behind their walls and chortle among themselves over what brilliant soldiers they have been for their cause.

So: every day in this thread when I feel like it, I am going to select one "fit" from SW&D WAYWT and one "fit" from MC from the previous day and post them side-by-side. I will duplicate these posts in both forums.

The thread for MC is here:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/293227/a-daily-mens-clothing-versus-streetwear-and-denim-fit-comparison-thread#post_5303788

I would think that the bulk of the comments from MC posters will be there, if you are interested.

I will not comment on the fits. The reasons why I select each fit might be because:

  • They are both great
  • They are both terrible
  • They share similarities
  • They show divergences


But in any case, I am going to do my best not to select them to slant things toward one "side" or another.

We'll start tomorrow.
Edited by F. Corbera - 3/25/12 at 9:56am
post #2 of 330
Good luck.

Frankly, though, if you're starting two threads it's because you've already accepted that each side will comfortably stay to themselves save for the few members that either openly and regularly traverse the "wall" or only do so to defend/clarify/etc. their position.

So now we get two train wrecks for the price of one? I'm just not clear on your intentions, especially when you haven't come outright to say what they are. It's almost like you're acknowledging a problem while feeding it at the same time.

The Venn diagram of this forum is well established, as is the location of each sub-forum. I'm not sure if shoving open debate into both houses while remaining neutral is exactly the best route to play mid-L.A. riots Rodney King.

Judging by the posts in the other thread, I'm not the only one with doubts.
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Good luck.

Thank you.
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Comparison #1: 03.22.12


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Edited by F. Corbera - 3/25/12 at 10:41am
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I will be monitoring this thread closely.

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I'm not sure if shoving open debate into both houses while remaining neutral is exactly the best route to play mid-L.A. riots Rodney King.

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Both very nice, but I'd give it to the SW&D look-  While the MC fit is decent n by a consistently great contributor, the other is outstanding to my eye.  I'm a complete noob in SW&D and frankly I just don't understand the arcane of the 'rules'  -  r there any?  -  but this 80s Miami-retro minus the padding?? combination seems to click.satisfied.gif  doesn't have the try hard adolescent awkwardness of some in that thread or is that bcause it's SW-lite?

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It's a shame, SW&D seems to care less about your experiment on partisan objectivity. Already we see a big difference, in the fact that being revered in one side of the wall wins you no credibility on the other side... confused.gif
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Sometimes I don't understand the MC folk at all; it's like the mere existence of SW&D is a challenge to their manhood. Very weird.

These two were both great; I wish I could do similar levels of execution on a vision.
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x-post from MC:

 

They are both very good examples of what they are attempting to achieve with what are, at base, actually quite similar components. They show that an idea of 'fit' can be entirely different and yet still work harmoniously as an ensemble. If I have to voice a subjective preference, Ivwri kills it every time, but I couldn't get away with dressing how he does.

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Vox should post his swiss army knife suit w. explanations, minds would be blown, that had to be the craziest bespoke order of all MC history.
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The MC pose is unfortunately rigid making the image less dynamic to the viewer. Both are excellent, the MC fit is clean and the clothes are beautiful. Ivwri's fit is the winner though, but with a fairly large caveat. It's just not something most people can pull off. I would look enormously sloppy if i tried that fit, but it works really well for him.
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Isn't that a hallmark of good style, though? Wearing something that especially works for you?
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Isn't that a hallmark of good style, though? Wearing something that especially works for you?

Yeah but, leaving aside the social acceptance obsession and concentrating on the shape of the clothes and how they transform our perception of the wearer's body, the look on the left gives structure to the physique of the wearer (squarer shoulders, waist suppression, semi full pants) and hides his gut (if he has a small one), dude looks to be of a pretty average physique (not an attack really) while Iwvri is probably both taller and fitter. He has to, as free flowing garments like these ones would look awful on someone with some extra weight. This will sound counter-intuitive to many MC people but loose clothing made of lighter weight fabrics may look fine when you're doing a robot pose but will cling on your body in the worst way possible when you're in movement.
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Vox should post his swiss army knife suit w. explanations, minds would be blown, that had to be the craziest bespoke order of all MC history.

http://www.styleforum.net/t/111076/the-swissarmysuit-a-sartorial-strip-tease/150_30#post_1917006
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Great thread idea. 

 

The jacket on the MC guy is beautiful, no matter which forum you subscribe to...

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